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<p>Indeed ! It is.</p>
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<p>But IMHO it's more than helpful : it's an indispensable complement and reminder for APC to values and fundamentals of CS activism. At least if APC is willing to stay in the CS militant camp.</p>
<p>Having in mind some commun souvenirs from WSIS PrepComs I do hope it is the case ...</p>
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<p>Jean-Louis Fullsack</p>
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<div>Thanks for this Michael. Helpful.</div>
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<div>From: Michael Gurstein <gurstein@gmail.com></div>
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<div>Subject: RE: [governance] [JNC - Forum] [bestbits] CS input to Chairs Statement for GCCS - apologies for short time frame</div>
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Sorry, something was left out of the last sentence...<br />> <br />> M<br />> <br />> Anriette (and NNena),<br />> <br />> I may have missed it but while the Hague meeting covers a range of topics<br />> including some new ones I don't see anywhere where there is a discussion of<br />> the social justice aspects or consequences of the Internet (apart from the<br />> pro forma repetition of referencing to the "Digital Divide" and "access").<br />> Equally and regrettably this can also be said for all of the other events<br />> that you point to in your note below--NetMundial, NMI, etc.etc.<br />> <br />> Accelerating income inequality, Internet supported loss of "good jobs", the<br />> mad rush to the bottom in a range of employment areas which are shifting to<br />> the global Internet platforms, the loss of health and safety protections in<br />> the newly emerging forms of employment contracting, tax dodging, and so on<br />> and so on all need to be addressed by global forums such as these and as a<br />> matter of escalating urgency.<br />> <br />> Equally, I would like to see some questioning of the prioritization of<br />> "capacity building". Admittedly, "capacity building" is of considerable<br />> value and utility in areas with a very high technical component. However,<br />> the use of this model -- with a highly skewed and selected group of<br />> instructors and a very narrow and uncritical selections of topics and<br />> reading resources is in practice little more than a form of ideological<br />> indoctrination, including I should and regrettably say as being executed by<br />> Civil Society organizations along with others.<br />> <br />> Good policy, policy analysis and policy development comes from a deep and<br />> widely informed reflection on a range of issues and perspectives and having<br />> a critical approach and understanding of the issues and their broad<br />> socio-political and economic contexts (much beyond that which is being<br />> presented by the current Internet policy establishment). An "open" and<br />> critical approach to policy analysis and development is of absolute<br />> necessity if the interests of the broad range of nations and populations in<br />> the world and particularly those for whom CS has traditionally been<br />> representative, are to be adequately accounted for.<br />> <br />> M<br />> <br />> <br />> -----Original Message----<br />> From: Forum [mailto:forum-bounces@justnetcoalition.org] On Behalf Of<br />> Anriette Esterhuysen<br />> Sent: April 13, 2015 2:23 AM<br />> To: forum@justnetcoalition.org; Ian Peter; nnenna75@gmail.com<br />> Cc: Anne Jellema<br />> Subject: Re: [JNC - Forum] [bestbits] CS input to Chairs Statement for GCCS<br />> - apologies for short time frame<br />> <br />> Dear all<br />> <br />> I am on a panel on the last day of the event on Internet Governance. I will<br />> definitely raise the issue of how important it is to work with the existing<br />> intergovernmental system and the UN system.<br />> <br />> As I have said previously, the multistakeholder approach should be a way of<br />> building more inclusion and democracy into internet governance and serve as<br />> a mechanism for engaging governments rather than bypassing governments.<br />> <br />> Other thoughts from you would be helpful, and I will pick up on Nnenna's<br />> opening statement.<br />> <br />> The panel outline:<br />> <br />> <br />> Parallel Session : Internet governance - Global Cooperation for a<br />> Sustainable Future<br />> <br />> Internet governance impacts on the three themes of GCCS2015: freedom,<br />> security and growth.<br />> This session will focus on five key interrelated initiatives and events<br />> which are paving the way forward for the Internet governance ecosystem:<br />> <br />> the NETmundial multistakeholder statement on Internet governance<br />> principles and the roadmap for the future evolution of Internet governance;<br />> the IANA Stewardship Transition to the global Internet community of the<br />> coordination and management of the Internet domain name system (DNS) and<br />> enhancement of ICANN's accountability;<br />> the Global Commission on Internet Governance (GCIG);<br />> the NETmundial Initiative;<br />> the UN General Assembly High Level Event in December 2015 on the review<br />> of the implementation of the outcomes of the World Summit on the Information<br />> Society (WSIS) (2003-2005) as well as on the renewal of the mandate of the<br />> Internet Governance Forum (IGF)<br />> <br />> Best<br />> <br />> Anriette<br />> <br />> <br />> <br />> On 13/04/2015 09:36, Richard Hill wrote:<br />> > Dear Nenna,<br />> > <br />> > Thank you for this. I had strongly supported Parminder's statement<br />> regarding why shun the UN, so it is not just him calling for that.<br />> > <br />> > I would encourage you to make that point in your four-minute <br />> > statement,<br />> and in fact I think that it should be added to the consolidated input from<br />> civil society.<br />> > <br />> > Thanks again and best,<br />> > Richard<br />> > -----Original Message-----<br />> > From: Forum [mailto:forum-bounces@justnetcoalition.org]On Behalf Of<br />> Nnenna Nwakanma<br />> > Sent: samedi, 11. avril 2015 22:17<br />> > To: Ian Peter<br />> > Cc: <bestbits@lists.bestbits.net>; Anne Jellema; Governance; JNC Forum<br />> > Subject: Re: [JNC - Forum] [bestbits] CS input to Chairs Statement <br />> > for GCCS - apologies for short time frame<br />> > <br />> > <br />> > Many thanks, Ian<br />> > <br />> > <br />> > This will come in handy in developing a 4-minute keynote. I Will <br />> > see<br />> how many of the key pints I can incorporate. have been further informed that<br />> keynote speakers are to keep to specific themes and mine will be "bridging<br />> the digital divide; freedom and privacy online".<br />> > <br />> > <br />> > Granted, it will be important to stress the respect of human rights <br />> > and<br />> all of that, but I am convinced that the Parminder question of "why are you<br />> shying away from more democratic UN-led instances?" on the process may still<br />> need to be asked. From the suggestion from organisers, Fadi Chehade will be<br />> the one speaking on "Internet Governance"<br />> > <br />> > <br />> > Still listening here<br />> > <br />> > <br />> > N<br />> > <br />> > <br />> > <br />> > On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 7:41 PM, Ian Peter <ian.peter@ianpeter.com><br />> wrote:<br />> > <br />> > >Thanks Ian. Is this available online anywhere? <br />> > <br />> > Probably not Anne, although I suspect the Chair's statement when <br />> > finalised will be at https://www.gccs2015.com/<br />> > <br />> > But this is a conference emanating from meetings of mostly foreign<br />> ministries from various governments, which is including civil society and<br />> trying to be "multistakeholder" for the first time. But this does not (yet)<br />> extend to transparent open processes where we will get to see other inputs<br />> to a Chairs Statement, let alone have a chance to discuss such inputs across<br />> stakeholder groups. Maybe next time...<br />> > <br />> > <br />> > Ian<br />> > <br />> > From: Anne Jellema <br />> > Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2015 6:03 PM<br />> > To: Ian Peter <br />> > Cc: governance@lists.igcaucus.org ; bestbits@lists.bestbits.net ; <br />> > JNC<br />> Forum <br />> > Subject: Re: [bestbits] CS input to Chairs Statement for GCCS - <br />> > apologies for short time frame<br />> > <br />> > Thanks Ian. Is this available online anywhere? <br />> > Best<br />> > Anne<br />> > <br />> > On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 2:30 AM, Ian Peter <br />> > <ian.peter@ianpeter.com><br />> wrote:<br />> > <br />> > Thanks to everyone (about 40 people) who responded to this with<br />> comments and suggestions.<br />> > <br />> > I am attaching the letter which was sent a few hours ago to the<br />> Dutch organisers, with consolidated CS inputs. Our understanding of the<br />> process is that a new draft of the Chairs statement, taking into account the<br />> various inputs, will be issued just before the conference next week. However<br />> at that stage there will be no more new inputs to text, but rather<br />> discussion limited to red line text.<br />> > <br />> > This ended up being a very rushed process, as we were advised <br />> > with<br />> 48 hours of a new deadline for us to submit our suggestions. Compiling about<br />> 40 sets of comments at short notice into one document was difficult, and<br />> left very little time for a small group to produce a consolidated text and<br />> submit it. Apologies for not being able to consult wider on this, but we<br />> trust that the document submitted covers the range of suggestions and<br />> viewpoints submitted. It will be interesting to see which of our suggestions<br />> make it through to the final statement!<br />> > <br />> > Ian Peter<br />> > <br />> > From: Ian Peter <br />> > Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 8:02 AM<br />> > To: governance@lists.igcaucus.org ; bestbits@lists.bestbits.net <br />> > ;<br />> forum@justnetcoalition.org <br />> > Subject: CS input to Chairs Statement for GCCS - apologies for <br />> > short time frame<br />> > <br />> > Dear friends,<br />> > <br />> > <br />> > <br />> > [Apologies for cross-posting]<br />> > <br />> > <br />> > <br />> > Below is a statement requesting your input into formulating the<br />> civil society response to the Chair's statement for GCCS 2015. Apologies for<br />> very short comments period, but the draft was only released for our wider<br />> input in last 24 hours, and we need to submit a consolidated CS response<br />> after getting your input. There will be another (again short) opportunity to<br />> comment on the consolidated response as per message below.<br />> > <br />> > <br />> > <br />> > Governments and business interests will also be responding to <br />> > the<br />> text separately in the same time frame, so we can expect changes. There are<br />> some (surprisingly) good sections of the text currently (IMHO) that we need<br />> to argue to retain, plus plenty where we can suggest improvements. But<br />> please input within the time frame either by the form or the email address<br />> below.<br />> > <br />> > <br />> > <br />> > <br />> > <br />> > <br />> > <br />> > <br />> > <br />> > <br />> > <br />> > We would like to bring to your attention the call for civil <br />> > society<br />> input on the outcome document for the Global Conference on Cyberspace 2015<br />> (GCCS 2015), hosted by the government of the Kingdom of the Netherlands, and<br />> taking place in The Hague on 16 and 17 April 2015. <br />> > <br />> > <br />> > <br />> > Following on from the London (2011), Budapest (2012), and Seoul<br />> (2013) Conferences - a series also known as the London Process, the 2015<br />> event in The Hague will provide an opportunity for further high-level<br />> discussion of key cyberspace issues, structured around the three main themes<br />> of Freedom, Security and Growth. The Conference will be a stock-taking<br />> event, assessing the current global situation and mapping out the challenges<br />> and opportunities that lie ahead. By engaging governments, business,<br />> academia and civil society participants at the Conference, the organisers<br />> hope to find practical solutions to real and urgent challenges, and to<br />> progress the agenda of a free, open and secure internet. <br />> > <br />> > <br />> > <br />> > Based on the assumption that all those who have a stake in<br />> cyberspace should be able to express their views and participate in a<br />> meaningful way, this year, the organisers are putting particular emphasis on<br />> facilitating multistakeholder engagement in the Conference. As part of an<br />> effort to achieve this, the Conference organisers are interested in getting<br />> Civil Society input on the draft outcome document of the Conference (The<br />> Chair's Statement).<br />> > <br />> > <br />> > <br />> > <br />> > <br />> > <br />> > Ian Peter<br />> > <br />> > <br />> > <br />> > <br />> > ____________________________________________________________<br />> > You received this message as a subscriber on the list:<br />> > bestbits@lists.bestbits.net.<br />> > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit:<br />> > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits<br />> > <br />> > <br />> > <br />> > <br />> > <br />> > --<br />> > <br />> > Anne Jellema <br />> > CEO <br />> > +27 061 036 9352 (ZA)<br />> > <br />> > +1 202 684 6885 (US)<br />> > Twitter: @afjellema<br />> > PGP: 1640BED9<br />> > World Wide Web Foundation | 1110 Vermont Ave NW, Suite 500, <br />> > Washington DC, 20005, USA | www.webfoundation.org | Twitter:<br />> > @webfoundation<br />> > <br />> > ____________________________________________________________<br />> > You received this message as a subscriber on the list:<br />> > bestbits@lists.bestbits.net.<br />> > To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit:<br />> > http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits<br />> > <br />> > <br />> > <br />> > <br />> > <br />> > _______________________________________________<br />> > Forum mailing list<br />> > Forum@justnetcoalition.org<br />> > http://justnetcoalition.org/mailman/listinfo/forum_justnetcoalition.or<br />> > g<br />> > <br />> <br />> _______________________________________________<br />> Forum mailing list<br />> Forum@justnetcoalition.org<br />> http://justnetcoalition.org/mailman/listinfo/forum_justnetcoalition.org<br />> <br />> <br />> <br />> <br />> <br />> ____________________________________________________________<br />> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:<br />> governance@lists.igcaucus.org<br />> To be removed from the list, visit:<br />> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing<br />> <br />> For all other list information and functions, see:<br />> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance<br />> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see:<br />> http://www.igcaucus.org/<br />> <br />> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t<br />><!-- PART SEPARATOR --><br /><br /><br />____________________________________________________________<br />You received this message as a subscriber on the list:<br /> governance@lists.igcaucus.org<br />To be removed from the list, visit:<br /> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing<br /><br />For all other list information and functions, see:<br /> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance<br />To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see:<br /> http://www.igcaucus.org/<br /><br />Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t<br /><br /></blockquote>