<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"></head><body ><div><div></div><div>Thanks for this Michael. Helpful.</div><div><br></div><div>Anriette</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div style="font-size:9px;color:#575757">Sent from Samsung Mobile</div></div></div><br><br><div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Michael Gurstein <gurstein@gmail.com> </div><div>Date:13/04/2015 19:52 (GMT+02:00) </div><div>To: governance@lists.igcaucus.org </div><div>Subject: RE: [governance] [JNC - Forum] [bestbits] CS input to Chairs Statement for GCCS - apologies for short time frame </div><div><br></div>Sorry, something was left out of the last sentence...<br><br>M<br><br>Anriette (and NNena),<br><br>I may have missed it but while the Hague meeting covers a range of topics<br>including some new ones I don't see anywhere where there is a discussion of<br>the social justice aspects or consequences of the Internet (apart from the<br>pro forma repetition of referencing to the "Digital Divide" and "access").<br>Equally and regrettably this can also be said for all of the other events<br>that you point to in your note below--NetMundial, NMI, etc.etc.<br><br>Accelerating income inequality, Internet supported loss of "good jobs", the<br>mad rush to the bottom in a range of employment areas which are shifting to<br>the global Internet platforms, the loss of health and safety protections in<br>the newly emerging forms of employment contracting, tax dodging, and so on<br>and so on all need to be addressed by global forums such as these and as a<br>matter of escalating urgency.<br><br>Equally, I would like to see some questioning of the prioritization of<br>"capacity building". Admittedly, "capacity building" is of considerable<br>value and utility in areas with a very high technical component. However,<br>the use of this model -- with a highly skewed and selected group of<br>instructors and a very narrow and uncritical selections of topics and<br>reading resources is in practice little more than a form of ideological<br>indoctrination, including I should and regrettably say as being executed by<br>Civil Society organizations along with others.<br><br>Good policy, policy analysis and policy development comes from a deep and<br>widely informed reflection on a range of issues and perspectives and having<br>a critical approach and understanding of the issues and their broad<br>socio-political and economic contexts (much beyond that which is being<br>presented by the current Internet policy establishment). An "open" and<br>critical approach to policy analysis and development is of absolute<br>necessity if the interests of the broad range of nations and populations in<br>the world and particularly those for whom CS has traditionally been<br>representative, are to be adequately accounted for.<br><br>M<br><br><br>-----Original Message----<br>From: Forum [mailto:forum-bounces@justnetcoalition.org] On Behalf Of<br>Anriette Esterhuysen<br>Sent: April 13, 2015 2:23 AM<br>To: forum@justnetcoalition.org; Ian Peter; nnenna75@gmail.com<br>Cc: Anne Jellema<br>Subject: Re: [JNC - Forum] [bestbits] CS input to Chairs Statement for GCCS<br>- apologies for short time frame<br><br>Dear all<br><br>I am on a panel on the last day of the event on Internet Governance. I will<br>definitely raise the issue of how important it is to work with the existing<br>intergovernmental system and the UN system.<br><br>As I have said previously, the multistakeholder approach should be a way of<br>building more inclusion and democracy into internet governance and serve as<br>a mechanism for engaging governments rather than bypassing governments.<br><br>Other thoughts from you would be helpful, and I will pick up on Nnenna's<br>opening statement.<br><br>The panel outline:<br><br><br>Parallel Session : Internet governance - Global Cooperation for a<br>Sustainable Future<br><br>Internet governance impacts on the three themes of GCCS2015: freedom,<br>security and growth.<br>This session will focus on five key interrelated initiatives and events<br>which are paving the way forward for the Internet governance ecosystem:<br><br> the NETmundial multistakeholder statement on Internet governance<br>principles and the roadmap for the future evolution of Internet governance;<br> the IANA Stewardship Transition to the global Internet community of the<br>coordination and management of the Internet domain name system (DNS) and<br>enhancement of ICANN's accountability;<br> the Global Commission on Internet Governance (GCIG);<br> the NETmundial Initiative;<br> the UN General Assembly High Level Event in December 2015 on the review<br>of the implementation of the outcomes of the World Summit on the Information<br>Society (WSIS) (2003-2005) as well as on the renewal of the mandate of the<br>Internet Governance Forum (IGF)<br><br>Best<br><br>Anriette<br><br><br><br>On 13/04/2015 09:36, Richard Hill wrote:<br>> Dear Nenna,<br>> <br>> Thank you for this. I had strongly supported Parminder's statement<br>regarding why shun the UN, so it is not just him calling for that.<br>> <br>> I would encourage you to make that point in your four-minute <br>> statement,<br>and in fact I think that it should be added to the consolidated input from<br>civil society.<br>> <br>> Thanks again and best,<br>> Richard<br>> -----Original Message-----<br>> From: Forum [mailto:forum-bounces@justnetcoalition.org]On Behalf Of<br>Nnenna Nwakanma<br>> Sent: samedi, 11. avril 2015 22:17<br>> To: Ian Peter<br>> Cc: <bestbits@lists.bestbits.net>; Anne Jellema; Governance; JNC Forum<br>> Subject: Re: [JNC - Forum] [bestbits] CS input to Chairs Statement <br>> for GCCS - apologies for short time frame<br>> <br>> <br>> Many thanks, Ian<br>> <br>> <br>> This will come in handy in developing a 4-minute keynote. I Will <br>> see<br>how many of the key pints I can incorporate. have been further informed that<br>keynote speakers are to keep to specific themes and mine will be "bridging<br>the digital divide; freedom and privacy online".<br>> <br>> <br>> Granted, it will be important to stress the respect of human rights <br>> and<br>all of that, but I am convinced that the Parminder question of "why are you<br>shying away from more democratic UN-led instances?" on the process may still<br>need to be asked. From the suggestion from organisers, Fadi Chehade will be<br>the one speaking on "Internet Governance"<br>> <br>> <br>> Still listening here<br>> <br>> <br>> N<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 7:41 PM, Ian Peter <ian.peter@ianpeter.com><br>wrote:<br>> <br>> >Thanks Ian. Is this available online anywhere? <br>> <br>> Probably not Anne, although I suspect the Chair's statement when <br>> finalised will be at https://www.gccs2015.com/<br>> <br>> But this is a conference emanating from meetings of mostly foreign<br>ministries from various governments, which is including civil society and<br>trying to be "multistakeholder" for the first time. But this does not (yet)<br>extend to transparent open processes where we will get to see other inputs<br>to a Chairs Statement, let alone have a chance to discuss such inputs across<br>stakeholder groups. Maybe next time...<br>> <br>> <br>> Ian<br>> <br>> From: Anne Jellema <br>> Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2015 6:03 PM<br>> To: Ian Peter <br>> Cc: governance@lists.igcaucus.org ; bestbits@lists.bestbits.net ; <br>> JNC<br>Forum <br>> Subject: Re: [bestbits] CS input to Chairs Statement for GCCS - <br>> apologies for short time frame<br>> <br>> Thanks Ian. Is this available online anywhere? <br>> Best<br>> Anne<br>> <br>> On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 2:30 AM, Ian Peter <br>> <ian.peter@ianpeter.com><br>wrote:<br>> <br>> Thanks to everyone (about 40 people) who responded to this with<br>comments and suggestions.<br>> <br>> I am attaching the letter which was sent a few hours ago to the<br>Dutch organisers, with consolidated CS inputs. Our understanding of the<br>process is that a new draft of the Chairs statement, taking into account the<br>various inputs, will be issued just before the conference next week. However<br>at that stage there will be no more new inputs to text, but rather<br>discussion limited to red line text.<br>> <br>> This ended up being a very rushed process, as we were advised <br>> with<br>48 hours of a new deadline for us to submit our suggestions. Compiling about<br>40 sets of comments at short notice into one document was difficult, and<br>left very little time for a small group to produce a consolidated text and<br>submit it. Apologies for not being able to consult wider on this, but we<br>trust that the document submitted covers the range of suggestions and<br>viewpoints submitted. It will be interesting to see which of our suggestions<br>make it through to the final statement!<br>> <br>> Ian Peter<br>> <br>> From: Ian Peter <br>> Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 8:02 AM<br>> To: governance@lists.igcaucus.org ; bestbits@lists.bestbits.net <br>> ;<br>forum@justnetcoalition.org <br>> Subject: CS input to Chairs Statement for GCCS - apologies for <br>> short time frame<br>> <br>> Dear friends,<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> [Apologies for cross-posting]<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> Below is a statement requesting your input into formulating the<br>civil society response to the Chair's statement for GCCS 2015. Apologies for<br>very short comments period, but the draft was only released for our wider<br>input in last 24 hours, and we need to submit a consolidated CS response<br>after getting your input. There will be another (again short) opportunity to<br>comment on the consolidated response as per message below.<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> Governments and business interests will also be responding to <br>> the<br>text separately in the same time frame, so we can expect changes. There are<br>some (surprisingly) good sections of the text currently (IMHO) that we need<br>to argue to retain, plus plenty where we can suggest improvements. But<br>please input within the time frame either by the form or the email address<br>below.<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> We would like to bring to your attention the call for civil <br>> society<br>input on the outcome document for the Global Conference on Cyberspace 2015<br>(GCCS 2015), hosted by the government of the Kingdom of the Netherlands, and<br>taking place in The Hague on 16 and 17 April 2015. <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> Following on from the London (2011), Budapest (2012), and Seoul<br>(2013) Conferences - a series also known as the London Process, the 2015<br>event in The Hague will provide an opportunity for further high-level<br>discussion of key cyberspace issues, structured around the three main themes<br>of Freedom, Security and Growth. The Conference will be a stock-taking<br>event, assessing the current global situation and mapping out the challenges<br>and opportunities that lie ahead. By engaging governments, business,<br>academia and civil society participants at the Conference, the organisers<br>hope to find practical solutions to real and urgent challenges, and to<br>progress the agenda of a free, open and secure internet. <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> Based on the assumption that all those who have a stake in<br>cyberspace should be able to express their views and participate in a<br>meaningful way, this year, the organisers are putting particular emphasis on<br>facilitating multistakeholder engagement in the Conference. As part of an<br>effort to achieve this, the Conference organisers are interested in getting<br>Civil Society input on the draft outcome document of the Conference (The<br>Chair's Statement).<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <snip><br>> <br>> <br>> Ian Peter<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> ____________________________________________________________<br>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:<br>> bestbits@lists.bestbits.net.<br>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit:<br>> http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> --<br>> <br>> Anne Jellema <br>> CEO <br>> +27 061 036 9352 (ZA)<br>> <br>> +1 202 684 6885 (US)<br>> Twitter: @afjellema<br>> PGP: 1640BED9<br>> World Wide Web Foundation | 1110 Vermont Ave NW, Suite 500, <br>> Washington DC, 20005, USA | www.webfoundation.org | Twitter:<br>> @webfoundation<br>> <br>> ____________________________________________________________<br>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:<br>> bestbits@lists.bestbits.net.<br>> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit:<br>> http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Forum mailing list<br>> Forum@justnetcoalition.org<br>> http://justnetcoalition.org/mailman/listinfo/forum_justnetcoalition.or<br>> g<br>> <br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Forum mailing list<br>Forum@justnetcoalition.org<br>http://justnetcoalition.org/mailman/listinfo/forum_justnetcoalition.org<br><br><br><br><br><br>____________________________________________________________<br>You received this message as a subscriber on the list:<br> governance@lists.igcaucus.org<br>To be removed from the list, visit:<br> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing<br><br>For all other list information and functions, see:<br> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance<br>To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see:<br> http://www.igcaucus.org/<br><br>Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t<br></body>