<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 7:34 AM, Norbert Bollow <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nb@bollow.ch" target="_blank">nb@bollow.ch</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small;display:inline">...</div> WK is<br>
calling for civil society to "speak with one voice".<br>
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So I find it natural to ask how it would be determined what this "one<br>
voice" says concretely!<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small;display:inline">I find this question one of the most critical questions we are faced with. It pertains to the same problem and observation that previously led me to state that IGC does not have just ONE voice. Interesting enough, you (Norbert) replied the following which I don't disagree with but just wasn't the issue implied by my statement. </div></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small;display:inline"><br></div></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small;display:inline"><div class="gmail_default" style="display:inline"></div>On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 3:48 PM, Norbert Bollow <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nb@bollow.ch" target="_blank">nb@bollow.ch</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=""><br></span><span class="">On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 12:03:20 +0000<br>Mawaki Chango <<a href="mailto:kichango@gmail.com">kichango@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br>> In other words, IGC which is also a CSCG member is certainly not one<br>> voice.<br><br></span>In fact, despite all its shortcomings (which include the fact that<br>what the Charter says about enforcing the posting rules is not being<br>done, and may in fact be impossible to do) IGC. i.e. this list, right<br>now is still the best place to go to when desiring a broad discussion<br>inclusive of the whole variety of civil society viewpoints.<br></blockquote></div></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small;display:inline"><br></div></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small;display:inline">So the question is How and When can IGC have a unique/common/united voice (you choose your preferred adjective)?</div></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small;display:inline">Part of it is the representation-accountability dimension which seems to be what you're concerned with here (and yes, while mentioning the non-enforcement of posting rules in passing.) But the other big part is this: What will it take for members to accept that their views, no matter how strong they feel about them, may not carry the day (and they certainly </div>cannot always<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small;display:inline"> do) </div><div class="gmail_default" style="display:inline">and still allow the group to make a decision while keeping peace and trust among us? This applies to all sides of our worldview spectrum.</div></div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">In my opinion, this question cluster is the million dollars knot for IGC to untie (solve) in order to be functional again.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Mawaki</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
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In particular, some kind of credible plan would be needed to prevent<br>
such a determination from being made on behalf of civil society as a<br>
whole in a way that in reality might be significantly less inclusive<br>
than it would claim to be.<br>
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Greetings,<br>
Norbert<br>
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