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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Sunday 25 January 2015 11:31 PM,
Avri Doria wrote:<br>
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Hi,<br>
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There have been a lot of criticisms of NMI based on its lack of
transparency and top down decsion making. It appears to be trying
to fix itself, but does not seem to having great success at this
point. How will the ISF distinguish itself in this respect.<br>
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Avri<br>
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ISF (Internet Social Forum) submits to WSF thinking and processes -
which one must say are quite demanding inter alia with regard to
openness and transparency, since right now I am responding to a
question on these points. At the same time, as has happened with
regard to many WSF linked initiatives, that may produce document
outcomes etc, like the intended People's Internet Manifesto, the ISF
process would also go beyond what is 'WSF proper' which is clearly
not an outcome producing forum. How this will be done would, I
understand, be figured out collectively by the actors who join in
this initiative, but obviously it cannot do anything that goes
against WSF thinking and its extreme accent on openness and
transparency. ISF would build on similar initiatives that have
earlier formed under the umbrella of the WSF - of which there happen
to be a considerable number. We are already in touch with a number
of such groups/ initiatives. <br>
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As to the key operative phrase above, about 'the actors who join in
the initiative' , ISF will be working under WSF rules and criteria,
which are listed on the WSF 2015 website on the unambiguously titled
page '<a href="https://fsm2015.org/en/criteria-participation">criteria
of participation</a>'. . As you will see, one of the criterion is
adherence to the original <a
href="http://www.forumsocialmundial.org.br/main.php?id_menu=4&cd_language=2">Charter
of Principles</a> of the WSF. <br>
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Now, if some people consider these criteria too exclusionary well
that is what the WSF is, and ISF is working under the WSF umbrella .
It is possible, just to give an example and no offence intended,
that some anti abortionists may find some women's rights groups too
exclusionary, but that is how it is. In my experiences any serious
political work requires some boundary laying. <br>
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Also, I do hope the ISF takes more pains than the NMI has in terms
of appearing to challenge the existence of the IGF. <br>
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I responded on this to Wolfgang (whose response BTW I still await).
Unlike NMI, the ISF has no claim to be multistakeholder. It is
out-and-out a civil society initiative (Please see WSF criteria
above) . In the circumstances, I do not understand what conflict it
presents with the IGF, In fact I asked Wolfgang and I ask you Avri,
why and how does a civil society initiative present questions about
'challenge to the existence of the IGF'?<br>
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And again, we welcome all progressive groups and individuals who
subscribe to the WSF thinking to join us in the ISF initiative. And
this is a public pledge that the group working on this initiative
will always holds itself highly accountable to the public, and will
always respond to questions that are posed to the group.<br>
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If this response is not found satisfactory with respect to the
original question, please do not hesitate to ask again or if needed
re-frame the question or get more specific. If we do not have an
answer right now, that too we will tell you. <br>
<br>
parminder <br>
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Disclaimer: Above are just my views about what the ISF should and is
likely to , and there is still no definitive articulation of the
issues and processes discussed above by the collectivity behind the
ISF initiative.<br>
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avri<br>
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