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<p style="margin: 0 0 1em 0; color: black;">That propaganda maxim about
repeated lies is more often attributed to Joseph goebbels than it is to Joe
McCarthy, by the way. </p>
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<p
style="color: black; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; margin: 10pt 0;">On
January 29, 2015 5:07:18 AM McTim <dogwallah@gmail.com> wrote:</p>
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style="margin: 0 0 0 0.75ex; border-left: 1px solid #808080; padding-left: 0.75ex;"><div
dir="ltr">Avri,<br><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div
class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 11:28 AM, Avri Doria <span
dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org"
target="_blank">avri@acm.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote
class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
  <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#330033">
    (repeat of reply sent to Bestbits)<br>
    <br>
    Hi,<br>
    <br>
    I must say, I am in complete agreement with the notion that a lie
    repeated often enough neither becomes the truth nor  represents that
    which is the case. <br>
    <br></div></blockquote><div><br>+1<br><br> <br></div><blockquote
class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div
bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#330033">
    A main issue, however, is identifying whose statements constitute
    lies, and I expect there are differences of opinion on who is
    putting forward falsehoods. <br>
   
<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Yup.<br></div><div> </div><blockquote
class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div
bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#330033">
    Beyond that, I did not know we had any US Senators on this list.  
    Living or dead.<span class=""><font color="#888888"><br>
    <br></font></span></div></blockquote><div><br><br></div><div>Does no
one else find it hilarious that McCarthyism (<a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism</a>)
is being used to accuse someone else of being
McCarthy-ist?<br><br></div><div>All I did was send a link.  I did not
endorse the views of the author.  I was attacked for
that.<br><br></div><div>I would appreciate the CoCo's intervention on
this matter in accordance with the
Charter.<br><br><br></div><div><br><br><br><br></div><div> </div><blockquote
class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div
bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#330033"><span class=""><font color="#888888">
    avri</font></span><div><div class="h5"><br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div>On 28-Jan-15 11:00, michael gurstein
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite">
      
      
      <div>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>McTim (or should I say (Sen.)
            McCarthy…</span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>I’m hoping that folks are wise enough
            not to think that if a lie is repeated often enough and
            loudly enough and particularly if it can be referenced to a
            blogpost with a reference to a (slightly deranged err over
            the top) blogpost that provides significantly distorted and
            selective references to a further set of documents then
            somehow it has a reality beyond simply self-interested
            commentary (sigh, but such is the Internet… </span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>And now to:</span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Jeremy’s <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremiad" target="_blank">Jeremiad</a>
            and Phillip’s <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippic"
target="_blank">Philippic</a></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>As they say the worst insult is to be
            ignored, and no publicity is bad publicity… so thanks folks
            for spreading the word about the JNC and the ISF.</span></p>
        <p
class="MsoNormal"><span>                                                                                                                                            


          </span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>That Philip got it wrong following
            Jeremy’s wild distortions and misrepresentations shouldn’t
            be too surprising.  I’ll leave a detailed cross referencing
            between reality and what Jeremy has oozed out to others with
            a more Talmudic bent but just to say that I’m expecting a
            libel action to be forthcoming from my PM Stephen Harper at
            the possibility that he might be funding my contributions to
            the JNC or the ISF (I would expect similar rumblings from
            various of the other “state actors” to which he might so
            circuitously and ponderously be referring).</span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>But just to note—it is only in the
            minds of the profoundly anti-democratic (and historically
            illiterate) that statements to the effect that “</span>The
          right to make Internet-related public policies lies
          exclusively with those who legitimately and directly represent
          people”<span> is (mis) represented as calling for governance
            solely by and through existing governmental (or
            inter-governmental) structures or more specifically existing
            and very often undemocratic and unrepresentative governments
            and state structures/actors (whoever they may be).  </span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>M</span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>From:</span></b><span> <a
href="mailto:governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org"
target="_blank">governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org</a>
            [<a href="mailto:governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org"
target="_blank">mailto:governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org</a>]
            <b>On Behalf Of </b>McTim<br>
            <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 27, 2015 9:02 AM<br>
            <b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org"
target="_blank">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>;
            Jean-Christophe NOTHIAS I The Global Journal<br>
            <b>Cc:</b> parminder; <a
href="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net"
target="_blank">bestbits@lists.bestbits.net</a>;
            <a href="mailto:discuss@1net.org"
target="_blank">discuss@1net.org</a>
            >> 1Net List<br>
            <b>Subject:</b> Re: [bestbits] [governance] Internet Social
            Forum</span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal">Quoting a CircleID piece by Philip
            Corwin:<br>
            <br>
            <a
href="http://www.circleid.com/posts/20150125_occupy_ig_internet_social_forum_targets_netmundial_initiative/"
target="_blank">http://www.circleid.com/posts/20150125_occupy_ig_internet_social_forum_targets_netmundial_initiative/</a><br>
            <br>
            "The author is not familiar with most of the groups
            constituting ISF. As always, a good rule for understanding
            true intent is "follow the money". We'd find it
illuminating
            to know where they get their funding and whether any state
            actors are involved (and a colleague more familiar with the
            global IG scene advises that at least several are indeed
            closely linked to their national governments, and are
            unsurprisingly more favorable toward the government-led
            multilateral approach on IG than the private sector oriented
            MSM). So there is some question as to whether ISF is a
            genuine grassroots Netizen movement — or a convergence of
            government-dominated organizations pairing with "<a
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot" target="_blank">useful
              idiot</a>” entities to pursue a broader and more
            pernicious agenda of undermining the MSM and replacing it
            with a UN-led, government-dominated one. "<br>
            <br>
            <br>
          </p>
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        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal">On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 1:23 AM,
              Jean-Christophe NOTHIAS I The Global Journal <<a
href="mailto:jc.nothias@theglobaljournal.net"
target="_blank">jc.nothias@theglobaljournal.net</a>>
              wrote:</p>
            <div>
              <div>
                <p class="MsoNormal">Quoted a Register piece written by
                  Kieren McCarthy</p>
              </div>
              <div>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Hibernating NetMundial
                    continues to rattle internet governance world <a
href="http://t.co/0D2vSUtqqf"
target="_blank"><span>reg.cx/2dZG</span></a></span></p>
              </div>
              <div>
                <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
              </div>
              <div>
                <p><span>As to NetMundial's three-month consultation
                    period, that will seemingly be led by respected
                    internet governance academic and ICANN Board member
                    Wolfgang Kleinwachter. The NetMundial organizers did
                    not reveal how much they will pay Kleinwachter to
                    lend the initiative his credibility, but his first
                    attempt to make the internet community learn to love
                    the idea came in the form of a <a
href="http://www.circleid.com/posts/20150103_internet_governance_outlook_2015_2_processes_many_venues_4_baskets/"
target="_blank"><span>blog post</span></a> at the
                    start of the year.</span></p>
                <p><span> </span></p>
              </div>
              <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
              <div>
                <div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal">Le 24 janv. 2015 à 00:21,
                    parminder a écrit :</p>
                </div>
                <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                <div>
                  <div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
                        On Friday 23 January 2015 11:31 PM,
                        "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" wrote:</p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal">Hi Parminder,</p>
                      <blockquote>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <p class="MsoNormal">how the ISF is linked to
                          the IGF?</p>
                      </blockquote>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
                        Hi Wolfgang<br>
                        <br>
                        One is a civil society forum, the other a
                        multistakeholder one. One develops people's and
                        civil society's positions on the key issue of
                        the global Internet, the other is a place where
                        such positions can enter into dialogue with
                        holders of political and economic power - the
                        governments and the corporate actors.<br>
                        <br>
                        Unless now the whole idea and concept of civil
                        society - and along with those of people's
                        movements, grassroots, activism, and so on - has
                        been fully coopted in some people's mind with
                        that of multistakeholderism (whatever one
                        actually means by it, something that has
                        remained notoriously unclear), the connection or
                        link that you inquire about is extremely clear
                        to me.<br>
                        <br>
                        Internet is not the first thing for which there
                        has been felt a need for 'independently'
forming
                        a people's conception and set of hopes,
                        expectations and demands - away from conclaves
                        of power. There have been scores of others, and
                        newer ones continue to arise. Accordingly if
                        people's and civil society forums etc have been
                        meaningful and needed in these areas, it is
                        incumbent upon *those* who think they are *not
                        needed* in the Internet space to explain why it
                        is so, then the other way around.<br>
                        <br>
                        To put is somewhat flippantly, ISF is also a
                        reaction of people who are fed up with an
                        ongoing IG charade where for instance Fadi
                        Chehade can with a straight face call the WEF's
                        Net Mundial Initiative as the 'mother of all
                        bottom -up processes' - even jokes require some
                        plausibility limits!<br>
                        <br>
                        To take the example of one of the latest
                        international global forums on a key global
                        governance issue, the Lima meeting on climate
                        change, you will perhaps know that parallel to
                        it a people's meeting was held. Internet and its
                        governance also needs such meetings, that is the
                        simple logic of the Internet Social Forum. If
                        you think that in the Internet's case, such
                        meetings and forums are not needed, I would of
                        course be curious to hear your case.<br>
                        <br>
                        I am happy to engage further with you on this
                        issue, and answer your questions.<br>
                        <br>
                        Lastly, let me invite you to join the ISF
                        process. We work under the World Social Forum
                        (WSF) process and principles - whereby its
                        meetings are open to all civil society
                        participants subject to very inimum conditions
                        that are listed on their website.<br>
                        <br>
                        Further, if the discussion is to now turn to the
                        WSF, its meaning, relevance, etc, I am as happy
                        to engage with you on that subject.<br>
                        <br>
                        Regards, parminder<br>
                        <br>
                      </p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                      <blockquote>
                        <p class="MsoNormal">Wolfgang</p>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <p class="MsoNormal">-----Ursprüngliche
                          Nachricht-----</p>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <p class="MsoNormal">Von: <a
href="mailto:governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org"
target="_blank">governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org</a>
                          im Auftrag von parminder</p>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <p class="MsoNormal">Gesendet: Do 22.01.2015
                          17:01</p>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <p class="MsoNormal">An: <a
href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org"
target="_blank">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a></p>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <p class="MsoNormal">Betreff: Re: [governance]
                          Internet Social Forum</p>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"> Enclosed Spanish
                          version... parminder</p>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <p class="MsoNormal">On Thursday 22 January 2015
                          07:06 PM, Norbert Bollow wrote:</p>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">Global Civil Society
                            launches the Internet Social Forum</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">- With a call to occupy
                            the Internet</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">PRESS RELEASE. Geneva,
                            Switzerland, 22st January, 2015.</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">A group of civil society
                            organisations from around the world has</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">announced the Internet
                            Social Forum, to bring together and
                            articulate</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">bottom-up perspectives on
                            the 'Internet we want'. Taking
inspiration</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">from the World Social
                            Forum, and its clarion call, 'Another World
                            is</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">possible', the group
                            seeks to draw urgent attention to the
                            increasing</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">centralization of the
                            Internet for extraction of monopoly rents
                            and for</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">socio-political control,
                            asserting that 'Another Internet is
                            possible'!</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">The Internet Social Forum
                            will inter alia offer an alternative to the</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">recently-launched World
                            Economic Forum's 'Net Mundial
Initiative' on</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">global Internet
                            governance. While the World Economic Forum
                            (WEF) and</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">the 'Net Mundial
                            Initiative' convene global elites, the
                            Internet Social</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">Forum will be a
                            participatory and bottom-up space for all
                            those who</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">believe that the global
                            Internet must evolve in the public interest;
                            a</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">direct parallel to the
                            launch of the World Social Forum in 2001 as
                            a</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">counter initiative to the
                            WEF.</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">The Internet Social Forum
                            will reach out to grassroots groups and</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">social movements across
                            the world, catalysing a groundswell that</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">challenges the entrenched
                            elite interests that currently control how</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">the Internet is managed.
                            The Internet Social Forum's preparatory</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">process will kick off
                            during the World Social Forum to take place
                            in</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">Tunis, March 24th to
                            28th, 2015. The Internet Social Forum itself
                            is</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">planned to be held either
                            late 2015 or early 2016.</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">"While the world's
                            biggest companies have every right to debate
                            the</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">future of the Internet,
                            we are concerned that their perspectives
                            should</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">not drown out those of
                            ordinary people who have no access to the</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">privileged terrain WEF
                            occupies - in the end it is this wider
                            public</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">interest that must be
                            paramount in governing the Internet. We are</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">organising the Internet
                            Social Forum to make sure their voices can't
                            be</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">ignored in the corridors
                            of power," said Norbert Bollow, Co-Convenor
                            of</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">the Just Net Coalition,
                            which is one of the groups involved in the</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">initiative.</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">The Internet Social
                            Forum, and its preparatory process, is
                            intended as</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">a space to vision and
                            build the 'Internet we want'. It will
be</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">underpinned by values of
                            democracy, human rights and social justice.
                            It</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">will stand for
                            participatory policy making and promote
                            community media.</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">It will seek an Internet
                            that is truly decentralized in its</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">architecture and based on
                            people's full rights to data, information,</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">knowledge and other
                            'commons' that the Internet has enabled the
                            world</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">community to generate and
                            share.</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">Somewhat similar to Web
                            inventor Tim Berners-Lee's call for a
'Magna</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">Carta for the Internet',
                            the Internet Social Forum proposes to
                            develop</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">a People's Internet
                            Manifesto, through a bottom-up process
                            involving</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">all concerned social
                            groups and movements, in different areas,
                            from</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">techies and
                            ICT-for-development actors to media reform
                            groups,</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">democracy movements and
                            social justice activists.</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">This year will also see
                            the 10 year high-level review of the World</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">Summit on the Information
                            Society (WSIS), to be held in New York in</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">December. As a full-scale
                            review of a major UN summit, this will be a</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">critical global political
                            event. Since the WSIS, held in 2003 and
                            2005,</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">the Internet, and what it
                            means socially, has undergone a paradigm</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">shift. The WSIS witnessed
                            active engagement of civil society and</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">technical groups as well
                            as of business. However, currently, there</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">seems to be an deliberate
                            attempt to sideline this UN-led initiative
                            on</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">governance issues of the
                            information society and Internet in favour
                            of</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">private,
                            big-business-dominated initiatives like the
                            WEF's Net Mundial</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">Initiative. The Internet
                            Social Forum, while remaining primarily a</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">people's forum, will also
                            seek to channel global civil society's</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">engagement towards the
                            WSIS +10 review.</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">The following
                            organisations form the initial group that is
                            proposing</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">the Internet Social
                            Forum, and many more are expected to join in
                            the</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">immediate future. This is
                            an open call to progressive groups from all</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">over the world to join
                            this initiative, and participate in
                            developing a</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">People's Internet
                            Manifesto.</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">Just Net Coalition,
                            Global</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">P2P Foundation, Global</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">Transnational Institute,
                            Global</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">Forum on Communication
                            for Integration of our America, Regional
                            (Latin</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">America) Arab NGO Network
                            for Development, Regional</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">Agencia Latinoamericana
                            de Información, Regional</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">Alternative Informatics
                            Association, Turkey</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">Knowledge Commons, India</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">Open-Root/EUROLINC,
                            France</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">SLFC.in, India</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">CODE-IP Trust, Kenya</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><a
href="http://GodlyGlobal.org" target="_blank">GodlyGlobal.org</a>,
                            Switzerland</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">Centre for Community
                            Informatics Research, Development and
                            Training,</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">Canada IT for Change,
                            India</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">Association for Proper
                            Internet Governance, Switzerland</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">Computer Professionals
                            Union, Philippines</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">Free Press, USA</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">Advocates of Science and
                            Technology for the People, Philippines</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">Other News, Italy</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">Free Software Movement of
                            India</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">Global_Geneva,
                            Switzerland</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">Solidarius (Solidarity
                            Economy Network), Italy</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">All India Peoples Science
                            Network, India</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">Institute for Local
                            Self-Reliance - Community Broadband
                            Networks, USA</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">Please contact us at <a
href="mailto:secretariat@InternetSocialForum.net"
target="_blank">secretariat@InternetSocialForum.net</a>
                            for further</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">information or
                            clarification.</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">Or the following regional
                            contacts:</p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">Africa:        Alex
                            Gakaru <<a
href="mailto:AlexG@InternetSocialForum.net"
target="_blank">AlexG@InternetSocialForum.net</a>></p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">Asia:          Rishab
                            Bailey <<a
href="mailto:RishabB@InternetSocialForum.net"
target="_blank">RishabB@InternetSocialForum.net</a>></p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">Europe:        Norbert
                            Bollow <<a
href="mailto:NorbertB@InternetSocialForum.net"
target="_blank">NorbertB@InternetSocialForum.net</a>></p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">North America: Micheal
                            Gurstein <<a
href="mailto:MichealG@InternetSocialForum.net"
target="_blank">MichealG@InternetSocialForum.net</a>></p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">South America: Sally
                            Burch <<a
href="mailto:SallyB@InternetSocialForum.net"
target="_blank">SallyB@InternetSocialForum.net</a>></p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote>
                        <blockquote>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">This press release is
                            also available online, e.g. at</p>
                        </blockquote>
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