<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Oh, all the USA has pellagra vitamin deficiency that causes a red, scaly rash on their necks?</div><div><br></div><div>When opposition takes the form of blind hatred, yes, rhetoric is a complete waste.<br><br>--srs (iPad)</div><div><br>On 05-Jan-2015, at 08:43, Louis Pouzin (well) <<a href="mailto:pouzin@well.com">pouzin@well.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Well written and articulate piece. It's quite disturbing that the bulk of internet savvies still don't dig or admit the US redneck colonization, quite obvious since ICANN creation. With them rhetorics is a waste. Only active opposition by all means makes sense, like China does (see article below). Ok, a diplomacy channel is valuable to keep contact points in times of crises.<br><br></div>Another insightful reading:<br>Tomgram: Pepe Escobar, Eurasian Integration vs. the Empire of Chaos<br>December 16, 2014.<br><a href="http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/175935/tomgram%3A_pepe_escobar%2C_eurasian_integration_vs._the_empire_of_chaos/">http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/175935/tomgram%3A_pepe_escobar%2C_eurasian_integration_vs._the_empire_of_chaos/</a><br><div><br>Louis.<br>- - -<br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 11:04 PM, Ian Peter <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com" target="_blank">ian.peter@ianpeter.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div>Worth reading. Puts a lot of the debate about internet freedom into the
context of free trade vs protectionism.</div>
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<div><b>From:</b> <a title="ip@listbox.com" href="mailto:ip@listbox.com" target="_blank">Dave Farber via ip</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 05, 2015 6:45 AM</div>
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<div><b>Subject:</b> [IP] DL- One Man's Freedom is Another Man's Imperialism
(via Evgeny Morosov)</div></div></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: "Mark
Stahlman via Digital Life" <<a href="mailto:dl@listbox.com" target="_blank">dl@listbox.com</a>><br>Date: Jan 4, 2015 1:02
PM<br>Subject: DL- One Man's Freedom is Another Man's Imperialism (via Evgeny
Morosov)<br>To: "Dave" <<a href="mailto:dave@farber.net" target="_blank">dave@farber.net</a>><br>Cc: <br><br type="attribution">
<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><a href="http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jan/04/internet-freedom-china-russia-us-google-microsoft-digital-sovereignty" target="_blank">http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jan/04/internet-freedom-china-russia-us-google-microsoft-digital-sovereignty</a><br><br>
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<h1><font size="4">Who’s the true enemy of internet freedom - China, Russia, or the
US?</font></h1><span style="font-family:"Guardian Egyptian Web","Guardian Text Egyptian Web",georgia,serif;font-weight:200;color:rgb(51,51,51);padding-top:0px;display:block"><span><a style="text-decoration:none;background:none repeat scroll 0% 0% transparent;color:rgb(230,113,27)" href="http://www.theguardian.com/profile/evgeny-morozov" rel="author" target="_blank">Evgeny Morozov</a></span></span></div></div></div>
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<div style="font-family:"Guardian Egyptian Web","Guardian Text Egyptian Web",georgia,serif;font-weight:normal;color:rgb(255,255,255)">Beijing
and Moscow are rightly chastised for restricting their citizens’ onlinUS that is now even more aggressive in asserting its digital
sovereignty</div></div></div></div><span>Saturday 3 January
2015</span><span>19.04 EST<br></span></div><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">[snip]<br></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div>
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