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    Good points Parminder.<br>
    <br>
    I think the paper points this out as well, and agree that the
    context for these trade agreements is not ideal as an internet
    governance mechanism. <br>
    <br>
    Take the local storage restriction. If this was being discussed in a
    <i>non-</i>trade context, the exceptions would be crafted to permit
    restrictions that are designed to protect privacy, etc., but <i>forbid</i>
    the ones that facilitate censorship, are directed at
    anti-competitiveness, etc. We would also, presumably, have some
    actual requirements to put in place legal protections for privacy as
    we do in other regional instruments designed to facilitate
    cross-border flows.  In a trade negotiation, though, where public
    input is not only muted but actively avoided through secrecy
    measures, you get a national security exception, broader IP
    protections and little else.<br>
    <br>
    Definitely, where EU countries are involved, the privacy
    restrictions are likely to be moderated, but that does not help for,
    say, the TPP.<br>
    <br>
    Best,<br>
    Tamir<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 18/12/2014 2:21 AM, parminder wrote:<br>
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      This below is a very important development, and the <a
        moz-do-not-send="true"
        href="https://data.awp.is/data/filtrala/15/analisis.cleaned.pdf">analysis</a>
      by Prof Kelsey and Dr Kilic is really really good. <br>
      <br>
      The upshot in my view is; the global Internet would finally be
      governed, has to be governed, like any other important social
      system. The real question that we face, especially in the context
      of these new revelations, is; whether<br>
      <br>
      (1) the Internet should be governed as a 'trade system', and among
      a few willing countries, which represent the most powerful
      countries plus those who are willing to partake of the fruits of
      cooptation, or <br>
      <br>
      <br>
      (2)  it should be governed as a<i> unique new global
        infrastructure of communication, information, and social
        organizing</i> (and thus of many a social system, including
      trade) in venues that are open to all countries of the world, more
      powerful or less, big or small. <br>
      <br>
      (Included in the above is the question whether the key value flow
      on the Internet, data, is to be considered in a framework of its
      multiferous enmeshment with many sectors of our society, or just
      as a commodity for trade, with some minor 'exceptions' admitted
      here and there.) <br>
      <br>
      One would think that for a civil society group the above is a
      simple choice to make. But unfortunately, most civil society
      actors in the IG space have focussed on narrow specific issues
      missing this larger framework, and thus missing the wood for the
      tree. Willy nilly, in my view, it amounts to complicity with
      option 1 above .<br>
      <br>
      Kelsey and Kilc's analysis begins with a very pertinent listing of
      US' objectives. While all three listed objectives are instructive,
      I especially quote no 3<br>
      <br>
      <font face="Times New Roman, serif"><font style="font-size: 15pt"
          size="4">"prevent or restrict government regulation that
          impedes the activities and profits of the major global
          services industries, and guarantees unrestricted cross-border
          data flows, which impacts on consumer protections, privacy
          laws, regulatory constraints and competition policy."</font></font><br>
      <br>
      How effective the US strategy has been on this count is obvious...
      It has kept the IG world embroiled in the multistakehoder versus
      multilateral debate as it goes ahead building the global
      architecture of IG and of the Internet through its secret
      agreements like the TISA. When the pressure becomes too much, like
      post Snowden, it throws a NTIA transition ball for kids to play
      with, which is both the not most important global IG issues, and
      even in its best possible outcome does not really change much. But
      quite good to divert people' thinking and energy for a year or
      two. And if one asks, but what about non-tech issues, it comes up
      with the WEF based NetMundial Initiative, and gets enthusiastic
      civil society backers - though anyone will ask the question, how
      the US push to prevent public interest governance of the Internet
      for the sake of protecting its big business interests (see the
      quote above) is addressed by new forums where those very big
      business interests will now direct participate in public policy
      development. But then...<br>
      <br>
      parminder  <br>
      <br>
      <br>
      <br>
      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Wednesday 17 December 2014 09:17
        PM, Carolina Rossini wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAK-FJAc4M2X4Sj8pXzKgouCHjfPjDbast+UDToADZKeCcE5oEA@mail.gmail.com"
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        <div dir="ltr">press release from PC (our dear Burcu) and also a
          briefing distributed today by other groups going deeper on the
          issues
          <div><br>
            <div class="gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message
              ----------<br>
              From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Melinda St. Louis</b> <span
                dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:mstlouis@citizen.org">mstlouis@citizen.org</a>></span><br>
              Date: Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 10:36 AM<br>
              Subject: [tpp-allies] PC Press Release: Obama "trade" text
              leak: net neutrality, data privacy implicated<br>
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                              454-5108</a>, <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                    align="center"> <b><span
                        style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Times
                        New Roman","serif"">Leak of Obama
                        Administration Trade Pact Proposal Reveals
                        Negotiations Affecting Net Neutrality, Limits on
                        Data Privacy Protections</span></b><i><span
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                        New Roman","serif""></span></i></p>
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                    align="center"><b><i><span
                          style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times
                          New Roman","serif"">U.S.
                          Internet Governance Policy Should not be
                          Designed in Closed-Door, Industry-Influenced
                          Negotiations of U.S. Trade in Services
                          Agreement </span></i></b></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:105%"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:105%;font-family:"Times
                      New Roman","serif""> </span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:105%"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:105%;font-family:"Times
                      New Roman","serif"">WASHINGTON,
                      D.C. â€“ While a domestic debate about net
                      neutrality rages and public demands for better
                      data privacy protections grow, a U.S. trade pact
                      proposal leaked today reveals that issues related
                      to both policies are being negotiated in
                      closed-door trade talks to which corporate trade
                      advisors have special access, said Public Citizen.</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:105%"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:105%;font-family:"Times
                      New Roman","serif""> </span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:105%"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:105%;font-family:"Times
                      New Roman","serif"">The leaked text
                      is the U.S. proposal for language relating to
                      e-commerce and Internet issues in a proposed<b> </b>Trade

                      in Services Agreement (TISA), which is now being
                      negotiated between a 50-country subset of  World
                      Trade Organization members. The pact would require
                      signatory countries to ensure conformity of their
                      laws, regulations and administrative procedures
                      with the provisions of the TISA; failure to do so
                      could subject a country to trade sanctions.
                      Negotiators are pushing to complete and implement
                      the pact next year.</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:105%"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:105%;font-family:"Times
                      New Roman","serif""> </span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:105%"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:105%;font-family:"Times
                      New Roman","serif"">“This leak
                      reveals a dangerous trend where policies unrelated
                      to trade are being diplomatically legislated
                      through closed-door international â€˜trade’
                      negotiations to which industry interests have
                      privileged access while the public and policy
                      experts promoting consumer interests are shut
                      out,” said Lori Wallach, director of Public
                      Citizen’s Global Trade Watch. â€œGiven the
                      raging domestic debate over net neutrality, the
                      growing demands for more data privacy and the
                      constantly changing technology, a pact negotiated
                      in secret that is not subject to changes absent
                      consensus of all signatories seems like a very bad
                      place to be setting U.S. Internet governance
                      policies.”</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:105%"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:105%;font-family:"Times
                      New Roman","serif""> </span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:105%"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:105%;font-family:"Times
                      New Roman","serif"">Added Burcu
                      Kilic, a lawyer with Public Citizen, â€œThe
                      Internet belongs to its users. Anyone who cares
                      about an open and free Internet should be
                      concerned that U.S. trade negotiators are seeking
                      to lock in international rules about how the
                      Internet functions, and are doing so in a
                      closed-door process that is not subject to the
                      input of  Internet users. Negotiating rules
                      internationally, behind closed doors, while the
                      domestic discussion is ongoing not only makes an
                      end-run around the domestic process, but excludes
                      the perspectives and expertise needed to make good
                      policy.”</span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:105%"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:105%;font-family:"Times
                      New Roman","serif"">With respect to
                      privacy protections, the leaked text reveals that
                      the U.S. negotiators are pushing for new corporate
                      rights for unrestricted cross-border data flows
                      and prohibitions on requirements to hold and
                      process data locally, thus removing governments’
                      ability to ensure that private and sensitive
                      personal data is stored and processed only in
                      jurisdictions that ensure privacy. </span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:105%"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:105%;font-family:"Times
                      New Roman","serif""> </span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:105%"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:105%;font-family:"Times
                      New Roman","serif"">Such measures
                      are considered critical to ensuring that medical,
                      financial and other data provided protection by
                      U.S. law are not made public when sent offshore
                      for processing and storage, with no legal recourse
                      for affected individuals. Numerous U.S.
                      organizations are pushing for improvements in such
                      policies, which are considerably stronger in other
                      countries. If the proposed TISA terms on free data
                      movement were to become binding on the United
                      States, such needed progress would be foreclosed.</span></p>
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                  <p
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                    a more detailed analysis of the leaked text and its
                    implications for net neutrality and data privacy,
                    please see <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="https://data.awp.is/filtrala/2014/12/17/19.html"
                      target="_blank">this memo</a> co-written by
                    Professor Jane Kelsey, University of Auckland School
                    of Law, and Kilic of Public Citizen.</p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><b>Symone D. Sanders </b></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><b>Communications Officer |
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