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<p style="margin: 0 0 1em 0; color: black;">You are hardly the first to
erroneously term multistakeholder governance market driven</p>
<p style="margin: 0 0 1em 0; color: black;">And please let us not go into
that Eric Raymond bazaar analogy to describe it either. </p>
<p style="margin: 0 0 1em 0; color: black;">What you're essentially
claiming is that nobody other than intergovernmental and government
agencies, and some specific class of civil society that shares both an
extreme aversion to industry as well as a particular affinity to govt /
intergovernmental agencies should have a say and everybody else should be
shut out of the process. </p>
<p style="margin: 0 0 1em 0; color: black;">That everybody else being a
clear majority, minority views do get listened to, subject to stopping
short at nonsensical proposals such as what you suggest. <br>
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December 2, 2014 12:09:36 PM parminder <parminder@itforchange.net>
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Yes, I object to the idea of the UN or ITU gaining supremacy over
the Internet but I and many others have long supported them as
equal footing participants in IG functions. <br>
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And yes, I would equally object to NMI or WEF gaining supremacy in
IG as well. I do not have the impression that they are trying to
do this. And if they try, we better be there to nip it in the
bud. But I support them being equal footing participants in IG in
the same way I support the UN and UN system organizations.<br>
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'Equal support' and 'equal objection' to governments and, what is
essentially, an industry body in taking up public policy roles is an
interesting stand!<br>
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You just see governments as public policy actors at the same level
as industry bodies. That precisely is the problem.<br>
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This is the neoliberal conception of governance, where (even
political) governance is a kind of a bazaar, where anyone can come
in and make deals, and those who have the greatest resources to back
their deals carry the day, opting-in being of course voluntary and
basically dependent upon how much can one resist a certain
configuration of power which has entered into a particular deal. Any
set of actors is 'formally' as good as any other, and legitimate
political power, based on people's representation, and an implied
social contract, counts for nothing. (In fact this neolib model is
constructed precisely to overthrow such currently dominant
democratic models, and is therefore post-democratic, equal-footing
multistakeholderism being just a convenient name for it.)<br>
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Neoliberalism is defined as the application of market principles to
everything, including those areas in which such principles are not
normally applied. The above is a perfect case of the application of
market principles to governance, as I said , the pristine neoliberal
governance model. <br>
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One often wonders, and I have thrown this challenge oftentimes in
this space, why do the same actors not try to propose this model at
the national levels . Propose that the government(s) and industry
associations are at the same level in terms of public policy
development, and they should work together as such. You would get
some very clear and resounding responses that will tell you whether
this model is democratic or not. In fact, go even further down to
local governance level as well and propose the same thing. That is a
simple test of democracy, isnt it.<br>
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