<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">RE to "nature abhors a vacuum" :<div>Since its inception, WEF has been a vacuum-cleaner for civil society, developing countries and enlightened citizens - all just dust.</div><div>What's the hell to ignore the history of high power games and to nourish self-proclaimed meritocracy !</div><div>No possible gain in that place.</div><div>Best,</div><div>Françoise</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>Le 19 nov. 14 à 16:35, Mwendwa Kivuva a écrit :</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>My view would be for us to participate in NMI. We have nothing to<br>loose, not even credibility. More often than not, we have participated<br>in forums where big money and governments are also represented. Like<br>the IGF for example, and the one time NetMundial. Civil Society also<br>participates in ICANN through NCSG and At-large, ... and many more<br>initiatives that escape my mind.<br><br>If we don't participate in NMI, they will just go ahead without us,<br>and achieve their agenda and goals without the checks and balances<br>that Civil Society brings. Remember, nature abhors a vacuum.<br>______________________<br>Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya<br>L: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/lordmwesh">https://www.linkedin.com/in/lordmwesh</a><br>B: <a href="http://lord.me.ke/">http://lord.me.ke/</a><br>T: twitter.com/lordmwesh<br><br>"There are some men who lift the age they inhabit, till all men walk<br>on higher ground in that lifetime." - Maxwell Anderson<br><br><br>On 18 November 2014 23:56, Jean-Louis FULLSACK <<a href="mailto:jlfullsack@orange.fr">jlfullsack@orange.fr</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite">Dear Siva<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Do really know what "Big Business" is, what its representation and its<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">interests in the "ICT world" are ? Maybe you are confusing it (Big Business)<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">with the enterprises, corporations and entities that constitute the<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">so-called private sector. Only the latter is referred to in WSIS documents<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">and in particular the Declaration of principles. Therefore, IMHO Guru is<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">right. He just omitted to add the "Big Five" to the "Five Eyes" !<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Best<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Jean-Louis Fullsack<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Message du 19/11/14 10:22<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">De : "Sivasubramanian M" <<a href="mailto:isolatedn@gmail.com">isolatedn@gmail.com</a>><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">A : "<a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>>,<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">"Guru" <<a href="mailto:Guru@itforchange.net">Guru@itforchange.net</a>><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Copie à :<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Objet : Re: [governance] URGENT: Last call for feedback on CS<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">participation in NETmundial Initiative<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Dear Guru,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">(You (Guru) said:<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">WEF is a primarily group of big businesses. We have seen the increasing<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">danger to the ideals of the WSIS Declaration of Principles from the<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">activities of transnational corporations. Apart from using/monetising our<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">data for their commercial gains in<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">authorised/unauthorised/illegitimate/illegal ways, their unregulated work<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">also is structuring our participation in the information society in many<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">unhealthy ways. Through Snowden we also understand how many of them are in<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">cahoots with the 5 eyes (USG+) on extraordinary programme of global<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">surveillance<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">If such as strong generalization of big business is to be accepted as fair<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">and valid, then all those who subscribe to such a generalization may have to<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">go back to the WSIS declarations and summarily exclude Business as a<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Stakeholder group, and then declare that Internet Governance ought to be a<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">process with two stakeholder groups - Government + Civil Society. No, no,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">on second thoughts I see your reference to Snowden and USG+, so the Civil<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Society could exclude Government from Internet Governance, and declare that<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Internet Governance must be reinvented as a single stakeholder group<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">process, with Civil Society as the only stakeholder group.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Seriously, i<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">f WSIS had committed to build a "<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">people-centred, inclusive and development-oriented Information Society<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">", what happens to inclusiveness and development with such a position on Big<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Business?<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">And, why this hatred for big business? Most progress in this world has<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">happened because of enterprise, much more because of business than because<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">of Government. Granted, some of the information technology big businesses<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">have worked with Governments on surveillance designs, and even there, we do<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">not know how of much of such cooperation came out of a desire for profit and<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">how much of it was forced by arm-twisting or by milder pressures in so many<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">subtle and imaginative ways.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Irrespective of how WEF's role has been articulated at the moment, it is a<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">very positive development to bring in the WEF<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">WEF participation suddenly expands business participation to a world of<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">business outside the IT sector, so WEF's attention to IG issues might by<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">itself act as a balancing influence within the corporate world, because many<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">of these Big Businesses are Internet "users" themselves.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Some of these Big Businesses are possibly charitable in unknown ways. What<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">is needed here is strong support at the moment, and w<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">e could<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">eventually<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">work towards a greater balance across stakeholder groups.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Sivasubramanian M<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Guru <<a href="mailto:Guru@itforchange.net">Guru@itforchange.net</a>> wrote:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Dear Mawaki<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">I would like to cite from two sources:<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">A. WSIS Declaration of Principles -<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><a href="http://www.itu.int/wsis/docs/geneva/official/dop.html">http://www.itu.int/wsis/docs/geneva/official/dop.html</a> (the very first two<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">clauses)<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">1. We, the representatives of the peoples of the world*, *assembled in<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Geneva from 10-12 December 2003 for the first phase of the World Summit on<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">the Information Society,* declare our common desire and commitment to build<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">a people-centred, inclusive and development-oriented Information Society,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">where everyone can create, access, utilize and share information and<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">knowledge, enabling individuals, communities and peoples to achieve their<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">full potential in promoting their sustainable development and improving<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">their quality of life, premised on the purposes and principles of the<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Charter of the United Nations and respecting fully and upholding the<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Universal Declaration of Human Rights.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">2. Our challenge* is to harness the potential of information and<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">communication technology to promote the development goals of the Millennium<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Declaration, namely the eradication of extreme poverty and hunger;<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">achievement of universal primary education; promotion of gender equality and<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">empowerment of women; reduction of child mortality; improvement of maternal<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">health; to combat HIV/AIDS, malaria and other diseases; ensuring<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">environmental sustainability; and development of global partnerships for<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">development for the attainment of a more peaceful, just and prosperous<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">world. We also reiterate our commitment to the achievement of sustainable<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">development and agreed development goals, as contained in the Johannesburg<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Declaration and Plan of Implementation and the Monterrey Consensus, and<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">other outcomes of relevant United Nations Summits.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">I now will cite from the WEF site - <a href="http://www.weforum.org/our-members">http://www.weforum.org/our-members</a><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Begin<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Our Members<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">The World Economic Forum is a membership organization. Our Members<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">comprise 1,000 of the world's top corporations, global enterprises usually<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">with more than US$ 5 billion in turnover. These enterprises rank among the<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">top companies within their industry and play a leading role in shaping the<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">future of their industry and region. Some of our Member companies join the<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Forum's Strategic and Industry Partnership communities, which are designed<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">to deepen their engagement with the Forum's events, project and initiatives.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">The Forum's Members are at the heart of all our activities.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">End<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">It is clear that WEF is a primarily group of big businesses. We have<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">seen the increasing danger to the ideals of the WSIS Declaration of<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Principles from the activities of transnational corporations. Apart from<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">using/monetising our data for their commercial gains in<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">authorised/unauthorised/illegitimate/illegal ways, their unregulated work<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">also is structuring our participation in the information society in many<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">unhealthy ways. Through Snowden we also understand how many of them are in<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">cahoots with the 5 eyes (USG+) on extraordinary programme of global<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">surveillance, which helps them in their goals of political-economic<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">domination / colonisation<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Participating in forums anchored in such a space will only legitimise<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">their power. I am clear that IGC should not participate in the NMI.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">thanks and regards<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Guru<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Gurumurthy Kasinathan<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Director, IT for Change<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">In Special Consultative Status with the United Nations ECOSOC<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><a href="http://www.ITforChange.Net">www.ITforChange.Net</a>| Cell:91 9845437730 | Tel:91 80 26654134, 26536890<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><a href="http://karnatakaeducation.org.in/KOER/en/index.php/Subject_Teacher_Forum">http://karnatakaeducation.org.in/KOER/en/index.php/Subject_Teacher_Forum</a><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">On Tuesday 18 November 2014 05:02 PM, Mawaki Chango wrote:<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Dear All,<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">You must have heard a good deal about this by now, so I won't repeat<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">the background details. In the middle of the night last night, before<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">hitting the bed after a long and drawn out day playing catch-up with<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">deadlines, I saw that Ian (chair of CSCG) forwarded the NMI<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Transitional Committee's reply the CSCG enquiry. Basically, they are<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">willing to let the CSCG vet CS candidates to be part of the NMI<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Coordination Council.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Now the question before us is to get a feel of the membership of CSCG<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">member entities as to whether to get involved in the NMI process or<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">not. I believe this is the last step in the consultations we've been<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">having (with NMI initiators, among ourselves at the CSCG and with the<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">membership of our respective organizations.) After this we should be<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">able to give a definite answer, formulate a definite position about<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">our participation in the NMI process.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">So what do you think? Please get right to the point and be brief.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">State your preference for IGC Involvement or No involvement and, if<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">you care to provide us with such, I would be grateful to you if you<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">could keep your supporting argument in one short paragraph (as we<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">just want to take the "temperature of the room" if you see what I<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">mean.)<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Thank you for your understanding. Best regards.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Mawaki<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 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