<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">On Nov 18, 2014, at 1:49 AM, Jean-Christophe NOTHIAS I The Global Journal <<a href="mailto:jc.nothias@theglobaljournal.net" class="">jc.nothias@theglobaljournal.net</a>> wrote:<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; " class=""><div class=""><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-weight: 300; line-height: 24px; ">I leave to Norbert co-convenor at JNC to answer your first email. On a personal note, I would appreciate you to elaborate about the "dumping on civil society colleagues" you are referring to,</span></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div>Within the next few days I’m going to write a separate blog post about this at <a href="http://igfwatch.org" class="">igfwatch.org</a>, because JNC’s pathologies are off-topic for this list.</div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; " class=""><div class=""><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; line-height: 24px;" class="">The WEF/ICANN/CGIbr project is not in lack of clarity. If I do listen to non JNC members:</span></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-weight: 300; line-height: 24px;">- Wall Street Journal reporter: "The NetMundial wants to spread Internet Governance more evenly across the developing world". (Ask Drew Fitzgerald about the source for that understanding of what is the WIB Initiative)</span></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div>Which is roughly opposite to what JNC is saying.</div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; " class=""><div class=""><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-weight: 300; line-height: 24px; ">- McCarthy at The Register: "ISOC has blasted efforts from some quarters to create a "UN Security Council</span><font face="Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size: 15px; line-height: 24px;" class="">”</span></font></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div>A fatuous analogy, do you take it at face value?</div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; " class=""><div class=""><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-weight: 300; line-height: 24px;">- Eileen Donahoe, ...</span><span style="font-size: 15px; line-height: 24px; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class=""> Virgilio Almeida, ...</span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; line-height: 24px;" class=""> Richard Samans, ...</span><span style="font-size: 15px; line-height: 24px; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class=""> Fadi Chehadé: ...</span></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div><div>None of these statements support the characterisation of the Initiative as in your letter as “being ’the’ mechanism for global [Internet] governance”.</div></div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; " class=""><div class=""><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-weight: 300; line-height: 24px;">Based on these official and public statement, I can only read JNC statement as an interesting analysis and agree with JNC reluctance to participate or endorse such following-up (hijacking might be to blunt) of the NetMundial meeting. </span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; line-height: 24px;" class="">Nor the WEF, ICANN, or CGIbr are owners of what was stated ultimately in Sao Paulo, with all due reserves by different participants.</span></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div>I’ve also said, and maintain, that I regard the NETmundial Initiative (particularly the naming thereof) to be a hijacking of the NETmundial meeting. On this much we agree.</div><div><br class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; " class=""><div class=""><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-weight: 300; line-height: 24px;">So instead of trying to grab a comfortable seat </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-weight: 300; line-height: 24px; ">in that convoy </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-weight: 300; line-height: 24px; ">... should for once, Civil Society ... acknowledges the serious concerns seen in the making of, and in the diverse objectives presented by the WEF, ICANN and CGIbr.</span></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div>Ian has taking a more neutral position, but for my part personally I certainly have (<a href="http://igfwatch.org/discussion-board/netmundial-initiative-takes-a-top-down-approach-to-implementing-the-netmundial-principles" class="">http://igfwatch.org/discussion-board/netmundial-initiative-takes-a-top-down-approach-to-implementing-the-netmundial-principles</a>). What prompted my last email was not that JNC opposes the NETmundial Initiative, but that it has to do this by impugning the motives of other civil society groups and falsely attributing them with their endorsement of the Initiative.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Also for the avoidance of doubt, nobody else endorsed my rant which was sent in a personal capacity (though I have subsequently received, off list, two emails in support, as well as one against).</div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; " class=""><div class=""><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; line-height: 24px;" class="">By the way, could you explain us (subscribers of the BestBits list):</span></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div>I do not have time to respond to the rest of your mail right now because I am speaking at a conference today and will be boarding a flight a few hours later. But I write this brief response just because you suggested in most recent mail that I was ignoring you - I’m not. Anyway, others can respond to the balance of your questions rather than me monopolising the conversation.</div></div><br class=""><div apple-content-edited="true" class="">
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