<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>The title 2 debate has been tainted by some extremely ill informed activism, and a lot of it has been in a style rather familiar to some in this caucus (painting isp carriers as blackmailers, eavesdroppers etc). Yes, substantial reform is needed but title 2 is an extremely onerous regulation. </div><div><br></div><div>Also - kiss goodbye to the filtering of quite a lot of spam that isn't outright 419 advanced fee scams, phishing etc. the sort of stuff you see only in your mailbox and on late night cable TV will potentially have a free run.</div><div><br></div><div>I foresee fun times ahead. The sort that happens when some people get exactly what they wished for.</div><div><br>--srs (iPad)</div><div><br>On 10-Nov-2014, at 23:31, michael gurstein <<a href="mailto:gurstein@gmail.com">gurstein@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 14 (filtered medium)"><style><!--
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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I think what Obama`s decision in this instance means is that he is deciding for citizens </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">(and democratic governance) </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">and against corporates (something he has only done sporadically up to this point… </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></i></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">There will be enormous discussions on the in`s and out`s of the decision and its implementation but establishing the necessity for involvement of formally constituted governance processes in Internet management in support of the public good is a very important precedent (which of course, is in contradiction </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">to </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">so many of the US`s actions and positions on the global Internet Governance stage.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">M<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext"> <a href="mailto:nncoalition-bounces@mailman.edri.org">nncoalition-bounces@mailman.edri.org</a> [<a href="mailto:nncoalition-bounces@mailman.edri.org">mailto:nncoalition-bounces@mailman.edri.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kirsten Fiedler<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 10, 2014 9:39 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:nncoalition@mailman.edri.org">nncoalition@mailman.edri.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [nncoalition] Obama calls for real net neutrality<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">...including re-classification under Title II and:<i><o:p></o:p></i></p><ul type="disc"><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><strong><i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">No blocking.</span></i></strong><tt><i><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> If a consumer requests access to a website or service, and the content is legal, your ISP should not be permitted to block it. That way, every player — not just those commercially affiliated with an ISP — gets a fair shot at your business.</span></i></tt><i><o:p></o:p></i></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><strong><i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">No throttling.</span></i></strong><tt><i><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> Nor should ISPs be able to intentionally slow down some content or speed up others — through a process often called “throttling” — based on the type of service or your ISP’s preferences.</span></i></tt><i><o:p></o:p></i></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><strong><i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">Increased transparency.</span></i></strong><tt><i><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> The connection between consumers and ISPs — the so-called “last mile” — is not the only place some sites might get special treatment. So, I am also asking the FCC to make full use of the transparency authorities the court recently upheld, and if necessary to apply net neutrality rules to points of interconnection between the ISP and the rest of the Internet.</span></i></tt><i><o:p></o:p></i></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><strong><i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">No paid prioritization.</span></i></strong><tt><i><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> Simply put: No service should be stuck in a “slow lane” because it does not pay a fee. That kind of gatekeeping would undermine the level playing field essential to the Internet’s growth. So, as I have before, I am asking for an explicit ban on paid prioritization and any other restriction that has a similar effect.</span></i></tt><i><o:p></o:p></i></li></ul><p class="MsoNormal">Great news!<br><a href="https://www.techdirt.com/blog/netneutrality/articles/20141110/06490829092/surprise-president-obama-calls-real-net-neutrality.shtml">https://www.techdirt.com/blog/netneutrality/articles/20141110/06490829092/surprise-president-obama-calls-real-net-neutrality.shtml</a> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>____________________________________________________________</span><br><span>You received this message as a subscriber on the list:</span><br><span> <a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a></span><br><span>To be removed from the list, visit:</span><br><span> <a href="http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing">http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing</a></span><br><span></span><br><span>For all other list information and functions, see:</span><br><span> <a href="http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance">http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance</a></span><br><span>To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see:</span><br><span> <a href="http://www.igcaucus.org/">http://www.igcaucus.org/</a></span><br><span></span><br><span>Translate this email: <a href="http://translate.google.com/translate_t">http://translate.google.com/translate_t</a></span><br></div></blockquote></body></html>