<div dir="ltr"><div>Jeremy suggests "<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"> </span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">(From civil society's point of view, we would aim, if we are to nominate candidates at all, to do so centrally through our IG Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG) in order to avoid giving WEF that power.)" but since the nomination process begins from the individual that may not be possible. CSCG may make a selection, but still not everyone in civil society subscribes to the idea of CSCG. And the Netmundial Initiative isn't clear about the process to demonstrate that one "belongs" to a particular group.</span></div><div>And what happens if CSCG decides not to be involved?<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br></span></div><div>At a time when civil society needs to search within itself for the areas in which it can present a united front to defend itself and its rights, it seems instead to be being split apart and fragmented, and becoming more and more helpless.</div><div>Or perhaps I'm just being pessimistic today :-(</div><div>Deirdre</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 6 November 2014 15:21, Ian Peter <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com" target="_blank">ian.peter@ianpeter.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>Yes – I agree with Jeremy that we really do need to decide within a week if
we are to participate, and if so how. I notice a few people putting names
forward on our lists already; if for the next few days we can have discussions
here and elsewhere as to whether or not to participate, that would help to
refine an approach and a possible call for nominations in a few days.</div>
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<div>The NetMundial.org site is now revised to reflect this new initiative
and the call for nominations is outlined at <a title="https://www.netmundial.org/coordination-council-nominations" href="https://www.netmundial.org/coordination-council-nominations" target="_blank">https://www.netmundial.org/coordination-council-nominations</a>.
Names of all people nominated are automatically made public immediately -
I think a good feature. </div>
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<div>CSCG is going to have to make a decision on whether to be involved or not,
and if so how. To assist this, I think there are many people reading this list
who listened in on the call – and in some cases were not able to ask questions –
so it would be good to have feedback on their impressions from these people and
others.</div>
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<div>For me as an individual – I think the concept of a forum to deal with
orphan issues is good and needed. However, irrespective of how good the
intentions of WEF ICANN and CGI.br are or are not, there is a substantial
structural issue if WEF decides who the representatives of civil society are. I
think they realise they have a problem there as well, and would welcome some
sort of solution. So I think there is room for us to offer a way out of their
dilemma. Putting forward nominations may not be the only way of doing
this.</div>
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<div><b>From:</b> <a title="jmalcolm@eff.org" href="mailto:jmalcolm@eff.org" target="_blank">Jeremy Malcolm</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 07, 2014 5:23 AM</div>
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<div><b>Subject:</b> [governance] A few notes from the NETmundial phone
conference</div></div></div>
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<div>I attended the NETmundial phone conference this morning, interested to find
out what had changed since the previous launch in August, which had drawn
criticism not only from civil society but more broadly. <br><br>The
NETmundial Initiative is presented as not being a centralised organisation but
rather a platform to support distributed governance of the Internet. It
brings together "Enablers" (currently CGI.br, ICANN and WEF) and proposed
"Solutions". The solutions can be contributed by anyone in crowdsourcing
fashion, and can invite partnerships or calls for assistance. The focus of the
Initiative is on mapping what already exists, and on developing solutions where
there are gaps.<br><br>There have been some changes since what was presented in
August, mainly to de-emphasise the role of the WEF, which now notionally has its
own separate but parallel Internet initiative. However WEF will continue
to enjoy a permanent seat on the NETmundial Initiative's Coordination Council,
and contrary to previous indications, the name of the initiative will not be
changed to remove the reference to "NETmundial". This is because the
NETmundial Principles are meant to be the foundation for the Initiative's work
(I questioned whether this meant that those Principles are set in stone, and
received an equivocal response that the Initiative might work on evolving them
if someone proposed this.)<br><br>The Coordination Council will contain 25
members, 5 of which are permanent seats for <a href="http://CGI.br" target="_blank">CGI.br</a>,
WEF, ICANN,<br>the I* group, and the IGF MAG. Note: no permanent seat for
civil society, except through CGI.br and the IGF. The other 20 members
will be distributed across four stakeholder groups which are (1) academia, the
technical community and foundations, (2) civil society, (3) governments and
intergovernmental organisations, and (4) the private sector - and across all
geographical regions.<br><br>There was much emphasis on how "bottom up" this
initiative is, which drew skeptical responses in the webconference chat
room. Although they did invite the stakeholder groups to nominate their
own representatives, ultimately ICANN, WEF and CGI.br together reserved the
right to decide between them if too many nominations were received. (From
civil society's point of view, we would aim, if we are to nominate candidates at
all, to do so centrally through our IG Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG)
in order to avoid giving WEF that power.)<br></div><br>Nominations are due
within a month, so we really need to decide within a week whether we intend to
participate at all, and if so, to proceed to a nomination process through the
CSCG.<br><br>
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