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    <font size="+1">Thanks Anne.<br>
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      It was not easy. But it did help to have the other statements from
      CS to look at and reflect on.<br>
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      We tried hard to find a tone that will encourage delegates to take
      the comments seriously, particularly by developing countries, but
      we should have finished this much earlier.<br>
      What both Deborah and I agree on, and possibly others would also
      agree with us, is that civil society does not have clearly though
      tout demands when it comes to cyber security.<br>
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      My proposal would be that this becomes a topic for Best Bits and
      Web We Want to think about and work on in the near future.<br>
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      We need something substantial such as 'necessary and
      proportionate'. We need to know what we want, not just what we
      don't want.<br>
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      Anriette<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 27/10/2014 20:13, Anne Jellema
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      <div dir="ltr">Great work Anriette and Deborah. Cogent, well
        argued and well written. Kudos. 
        <div>best</div>
        <div>Anne</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 8:02 PM,
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            Attached are APC's remarks on the ITU's 2014 plenipotentiary
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