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<p style="margin: 0 0 1em 0; color: black;">I am absolutely glad to not
continue a discussion on these lines. On the ground and reasoned policy
discussions on this list get increasingly rare when terms like neo liberal
are bandied around, a distressing repurposing of the word liberal and all
that it stands for, but I digress.. <br>
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24 October 2014 10:30:01 am chaals@yandex-team.ru wrote:</p>
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style="margin: 0 0 0 0.75ex; border-left: 1px solid #808080; padding-left: 0.75ex;"><div>Hi,</div><div> </div><div>This
by now pretty unedifying discussion about the finer theoretical points of
different approaches to democracy seems to have outlived its usefulness to
this group.</div><div> </div><div>It takes a certain kind of stubbornness
not to recognise that there are extremely serious limitations to the
capacity of a "multi-stakeholder approach" to be guaranteed to represent
all the people. But then, that pretty much follows from Arrow's theorem,
along with the fact that there are equally problems any other
approach.</div><div> </div><div>We could argue about whether the model
chosen for this group is the right one, if there were some alternative
proposal. Otherwise, I'd love to see discussions related to some concrete
proposal related to ensuring or improving the way that Internet governance
supports improved Human Rights.</div><div> </div><div>(Yes, this is also
what a "neo-liberal" would reply if they wanted to shut down a discussion
they found uncomfortable. Unfortunately, there is no a priori way to
determine whether my motivation is to spend my time doing useful stuff, or
to use any rhetorical trick available to further my hidden agenda. So I'll
just go with calling it like I see
it).</div><div> </div><div>cheers</div><div> </div><div>--</div><div>Charles
McCathie Nevile - web standards - CTO Office, Yandex<br
/>chaals@yandex-team.ru - - - Find more at <a
href="http://yandex.com">http://yandex.com</a></div><div> </div></blockquote>
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