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<p style="margin: 0 0 1em 0; color: black; font-size: 10pt;">The too much
effort tends to produce acute verbal diarrhea to be frank, or as they
keep saying in game of thrones, 'words are wind' </p>
<p style="margin: 0 0 1em 0; color: black; font-size: 10pt;">Crudities
aside, I have long looked for places and groups that actually take
presentation decks and position papers, and turn them into on the ground
implementations. I keep not finding them except in very rare cases. <br>
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<p
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12 October 2014 4:44:37 pm Guru <Guru@ITforChange.net> wrote:</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">slight change<br>
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"multistakeholderist constipation when too much effort is being
applied to ensure too little useful output."<br>
<br>
Guru<br>
<br>
</span>On Sunday 12 October 2014 12:29 PM, michael gurstein wrote:<br>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Not
to speak of multistakeholderist constipation when too much
effort is being applied for too little useful
output.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org">governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="mailto:governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org">mailto:governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org</a>]
<b>On
Behalf Of </b>Matthew Shears<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, October 12, 2014 8:09 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>;
Ian Peter<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [governance] [IP] WEF says it plans
to build multilateral architecture to govern
internet<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Lovely Ian and
so true!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 10/11/2014 6:36 PM, Ian Peter
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">a
beautiful example of multistakeholder coagulation –
a state that arrives when too much spin is
applied.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
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<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:suresh@hserus.net"
title="suresh@hserus.net">Suresh
Ramasubramanian</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="background:whitesmoke"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Sent:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
Sunday, October 12, 2014 11:37
AM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="background:whitesmoke"><b><span
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<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net"
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<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org"
title="governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>
; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com"
title="wjdrake@gmail.com">William Drake</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="background:whitesmoke"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Subject:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
Re: [governance] [IP] WEF says it plans to
build multilateral architecture to govern
internet<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Thanks
Bill<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">And
this is one of those rare occasions where I find
myself agreeing with Parminder. So thanks
Parminder too. Really quick work.<br>
<br>
--srs (iPad)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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On 11-Oct-2014, at 22:18, parminder <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net">parminder@itforchange.net</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">On
Saturday 11 October 2014 09:49 PM, William
Drake wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Hi
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">The
ill-chosen wording has been pointed out to
the WEF and the text has been
changed.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><br>
Real quick stuff, i'd say, from both sides :)
.... parminder<br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">It
now says "a multistakeholder endeavour to
stimulate more cross-industry and
cross-ministry strategic dialogue on ways to
strengthen multistakeholder Internet
governance and cooperation.” This is a
separate track of activity from the
NMI/platform for collaborative
projects.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.weforum.org/news/world-economic-forum-annual-meeting-2015-address-new-global-context?news=page">http://www.weforum.org/news/world-economic-forum-annual-meeting-2015-address-new-global-context?news=page</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Best<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Bill<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">On
Oct 10, 2014, at 6:20 PM, Suresh
Ramasubramanian <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:suresh@hserus.net">suresh@hserus.net</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">"Broad
based" and "multilateral" seem to be a
contradiction in terms, though possibly
this is from a group less concerned with
the finer points of igov jargon than
most of the existing actors are?
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">They
do talk about gender parity, which will
be interesting on how they plan to work
this into an iGov model.<br>
<br>
--srs (iPad)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Begin forwarded message:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> "Dave
Farber via ip" <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ip@listbox.com">ip@listbox.com</a>><br>
<b>Date:</b> 11 October 2014 00:49:59
IST<br>
<b>To:</b> "ip" <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ip@listbox.com">ip@listbox.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> <b>[IP] WEF says it
plans to build multilateral
architecture to govern internet</b><br>
<b>Reply-To:</b> <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:dave@farber.net">dave@farber.net</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Forwarded message ----------<br>
From: "Ram Mohan" <<a
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href="mailto:rmohan@afilias.info">rmohan@afilias.info</a>><br>
Date: Oct 10, 2014 2:48 PM<br>
Subject: WEF says it plans to build
multilateral architecture to govern
internet<br>
To: "Dave Farber" <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:dave@farber.net">dave@farber.net</a>><br>
Cc: "Ram Mohan" <<a
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href="mailto:rmohan@afilias.info">rmohan@afilias.info</a>><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Here
is a piece from a <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.weforum.org/news/world-economic-forum-annual-meeting-2015-address-new-global-context?news=page"
target="_blank">press release</a> by
the World Economic Forum (WEF)
regarding their plan to “build a
broad-based, multilateral global
architecture for governing the
internet” that might be interesting to
the IP readership.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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below:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">“The
Annual Meeting 2015 will provide a
platform for over 50 initiatives that
are currently being led by the Forum,
with the aim of contributing positive,
transformative change to the global
agenda, as well as those of industry,
business and the world’s regions.
These include a public-private
initiative to help achieve zero net
tropical deforestation caused by key
agricultural commodities by 2020; an
endeavour to build a broad-based,
multilateral global architecture for
governing the internet; and the
Forum’s Gender Parity Taskforces,
which work with governments worldwide
to improve economic opportunity for
the female half of the
population.”<o:p></o:p></p>
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