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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Saturday 27 September 2014 07:45 PM,
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<div>I would be curious to see which developing countries
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See enclosed response from India to ICANN's process of collection
of views on the IANA transition process. It say clearly that any
transition arrangement should "have a proper international
legislative authority". And of course India earlier made the CIRP
proposal which sought inter-gov oversight of ICANN. Dont know why
continued ignorance should be professed about this and many other
stated positions from other developing countries.<br>
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<div>From my reading of things it is not countries but
views of certain groups and can hardly be said to be
country positions.<br>
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sorry, meant "international legal backing/ authority"<br>
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but it is not necessary that the precise oversight mechanism be
inter-gov in the UN sense. To that extent it is different from
India's position.<br>
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<div>On Saturday 27 September 2014 02:25 AM,
Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro wrote:<br>
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<div>As I read through all the email
discussions, I could not help wondering
whether there should be greater
awareness done on the roles of
stakeholders within the ecosystem. The
content of the discussions in relation
to domain name racket I could not follow
through properly but whilst people are
still putting all their eggs in the
domain name basket with the gTLD
process, hardly anyone talks about the
dotless domains and the implication for
the current value of the domain name.
Can the domain name and dotless domain
name be likened to PSTN and NGN in terms
of transition? Is it inevitable that the
world will shift from domains to more
dotless domains or are dotless domains
are just a fly by night.<br>
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Personally I prefer ICANN over ITU any day
in terms of being open to hearing the
voices of diverse community. ICANN has
built in mechanisms for input into various
processes. ITU on the other hand remains a
closed trunk available only to
Governments, Regulators and ICT Private
Sector who can afford it, and they have no
capacity to be flexible to absorb civil
society. In terms of accountability, ICANN
leads as all its reports are published
open and online and available for easy
access by anyone except <i>some</i> of
the SSAC reports.<br>
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<div>However, I can also understand why,
sometimes being the oldest UN organisation
can make this resistant to change to be
more relevant with the dynamics of time.
ITU has done fantastic work building and
developing toolkits for diverse
initiatives within the ICT space and
should be commended.<br>
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The ITU has also begun using
multistakeholder in their various speeches
just as ICANN does for some time now.<br>
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However, despite my preferences, I can say
that both organisations have greater room
for even more improvement. However, to do
that we as civil society must first get our
act together and figure out architecturally,
the kind of changes we would like to see
happening in the ecosystem to amplify the
voice of the common man and the inclusion of
<b>ALL</b> our voices.<br>
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<div>At the same time, we have to come to the
realisation that we can treat and respect
individual organisations as unique with
distinct roles and mandates and perhaps that
will make us less likely to try to want to
fit square pegs in round holes.<br>
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:) <br>
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