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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Thursday 18 September 2014 06:50 PM,
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                <div>Time for some reality based thinking here.<br>
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                ICANN has a lot of money, sure, however, they are
                spending it on IG conferences (NetMundial, IGF, and
                others that you folks are happy to participate in) at a
                prodigious rate.  <br>
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    Every meeting they attend, they more than extract their pound of
    flesh... Net Mundial being a good example. They even got civil
    society leads appointed for civil society apart . <br>
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              <div>MOST of the money they have on hand is budgeted fro
                legal fees in case/when they get sued, so it is  a
                'war-chest" they can't touch.<br>
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    Let them come out of the US, they would need a fraction of that kind
    of expenditure. <br>
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              They have spent so much so fast that they are actually
              cutting the budget for 2015, as new gTLD revenues are
              significantly lower than what was anticipated.  <br>
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            The latest in this saga is that the Gala, a staple of ICANN
            meetings has been cut from the Agenda.<br>
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          So not wallowing in cash, actually fairly strapped for it. 
          These auctions reveneues don't go into the regular budget
          IIRC, but are put aside in the new gTLD kitty, in other words,
          they aren't really free to spend it as and when they wish.<br>
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    Interesting! Then whose wishes they are able to spend it for? BTW, I
    really will like to know who gave the ICANN mandate to get into Net
    Mundial and WEF kind of things, which is basically trying to forge a
    new global IG order far beyond the domain name space? But ICANN is
    hardly answerable to me. <br>
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        So it's not all fancy lunches/dinners/biz class travel for ICANN
        staff.  In fact, on the way home from Durban I saw several ICANN
        VPs in Economy.<br>
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    The simple tasks that is the mandate of the ICANN to perform can be
    done at maybe 5 percent of ICANN's budget or at least revenue. ICANN
    is just highly puffed up for basically serving US's geopolitical
    interests Were it not for that, it would have been 'disciplined' -
    including its earning and expenditure - long long ago..<br>
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    parminder<br>
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        Cheers,<br>
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        McTim<br>
        "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it
        is. A route indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel
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          <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 8:03 AM,
            parminder <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                On Thursday 18 September 2014 06:10 PM, Norbert Klein
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                  Thanks, Louis.<br>
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                  How long will it still be possible to LOL?<br>
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              As long as a certain section of IG civil society remains
              so ingratiated with ICANN that they will never speak up
              anything that can lead to any real structural change in
              the ICANN, and make it really responsible to the global
              public. The quid pro quo of course being that ICANN spends
              a part of the money currying favour with this section of
              the civil society.<br>
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              I know this kind of thing is normally not said in the
              polite society of global IG, but what the heck... The loot
              cannot go on. And if those who are supposed to be the
              watch dogs turn pets, it must be called out in the larger
              public interest...<span class=""><font color="#888888"><br>
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                    And how transparent is it where these dollars go?<br>
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                    I remember there were some time not conclusive
                    discussions about staff perks (some working on TLD
                    system development), and some discussion about staff
                    salaries or "benefits" - ICANN is a non-profit.<br>
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                    So am I.<br>
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                    What I have done from 1994 to more recently to
                    connect the country to the Internet, to get the
                    Cambodian script into Unicode, to help to organize
                    the creation of localized Khmer Open Source software
                    (now the official software for the Ministry of
                    Education and everything under it in Teachers
                    Training Colleges, Provincial Offices of Education,
                    and schools that have computer), all that was also
                    non-profit.<br>
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                    But at the end, ICANN seems to have a lot of money.<br>
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                    Norbert Klein<br>
                    Cambodia<br>
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                    On 9/18/2014 7:17 PM, Louis Pouzin (well) wrote:<br>
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                      Results Available for 17 September 2014 Auction.<br>
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                      Four applicants for BUY participated in the
                      Auction. Amazon EU S.à r.l. prevailed in the
                      Auction with the winning price of *$4,588,888.<br>
                      *<br>
                      Six applicants for TECH participated in the
                      Auction. Dot Tech LLC prevailed in the Auction
                      with the winning price of *$6,760,000*.<br>
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                      Five applicants for VIP participated in the
                      Auction. Top Level Domain Holdings prevailed in
                      the Auction with the winning price of
                      *$3,000,888*.<br>
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                      Remember. ICANN is non-profit and no tax. LOL.<br>
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                      Louis<br>
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