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<font size="+1">Apologies all.. this message was sent before I
completed it. Let me start again.<br>
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<font size="+1">Dear all<br>
<br>
This is an excellent initiative. <br>
<br>
I have not read all the comments.. my apologies. Too busy here are
the IGF.<br>
<br>
These few comments are what struck me when I read the statement:<br>
<br>
1) Summary of the IGF mandate from the Tunis Agenda. The summary
omits several really key point from the TA IGF mandate. I would
suggest either quoting the entire agenda, or making the summary
more comprehensive, or just referencing it. It is short so my
preference would be to quote the full text.<br>
<br>
2) Where we reference national and regional IGFs could we say that
most of these involved the active support and participation of UN
member states?<br>
<br>
3) Can we get to the point of the recommendation earlier in the
text? Background can follow later.<br>
<br>
4) </font>I am not sure we should give this option in this way:<font
face="Times, serif"><font style="font-size: 10pt" size="2"><span
lang="en-CA"> If
this is impossible given current UN rules and regulations, we
would
recommend a stable ten year extension, to enable longer-range
commitments and financial planning. </span></font></font>
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I suggest we just leave it.<br>
<br>
All for now and apologies for not being able to read and comment
on everyone's comments.<br>
<br>
Anriette<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 03/09/2014 15:15, Anriette
Esterhuysen wrote:<br>
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<font size="+1">Dear all<br>
<br>
This is an excellent initiative. <br>
<br>
I have not read all the comments.. my apologies. Too busy here
are the IGF.<br>
<br>
These few comments are what struck me when I read the statement:<br>
<br>
1) Summary of the IGF mandate from the Tunis Agenda. The summary
omits several really key point from the TA IGF mandate. I would
suggest either quoting the entire agenda, or making the summary
more comprehensive, or just referencing it. It is short so my
preference would be to quote the full text.<br>
<br>
<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 02/09/2014 17:03, Stephanie Perrin
wrote:<br>
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Please find attached a new, greatly revised text of the draft
statement on making the IGF permanent. We have sought advice on
various aspects of the document and made the required
revisions. Please send your comments, as we hope to proceed
with a letter and formal approval process tomorrow. The
document is also loaded on the pad at
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Kind regards,<br>
Stephanie Perrin and Jeannette Hofmann.<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2014-09-02, 2:34, Jeanette
Hofmann wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote cite="mid:540564E8.7060903@wzb.eu" type="cite">Hi
all, <br>
<br>
(sorry, cross-posting still necessary since not everyone is on
each of these lists) <br>
<br>
Thanks to those who commented, here is a quick update of
comments received so far: <br>
<br>
1. Substance: Ryn and otherers made the important point that
projects in the UN environment are by definition temporary. If
we ask the Generaly Assembly to make the IGF a permanent
entity, such a request could imply a change of status that we
did not mean to ask for. <br>
<br>
This does not necessarily mean we should drop the whole
statement but that we have to be careful about its language
and that we need to get advise from the diplomats @ IGF. <br>
<br>
2. Title: People find it awkward. Others say it should address
the UN General Assembly. <br>
Again others want a subtitle that would frame it as a
statement from the IGF stakeholders (meaning: we practically
produce outcomes even if we cannot formally agree whether or
not we want the IGF to produce outcomes) <br>
<br>
3. Text: too long, should be shortened but also incude other
aspects such as those that Avri mentioned: funding, successes
of the IGF <br>
<br>
4. Language: should be softer to comply with UN style <br>
<br>
5. End: too ubrupt, could be more passionate <br>
<br>
6. Operational: Deadline for comments should be Wednesday
night, IGF local time, so that we have enough time on Thursday
to get support for it. <br>
Statement should be read in the closing session? <br>
<br>
I am grateful for all suggestions on how to proceed from here.
We are inventing the drafting process while I am writing this.
<br>
<br>
jeanette <br>
<br>
Am 02.09.14 07:00, schrieb Avri Doria: <br>
<blockquote type="cite">(removed cross posting) <br>
<br>
Hi, <br>
<br>
I agree that the letter makes a good case and is a good
start. <br>
<br>
I think we need to add a few elements, while working on
keeping the text <br>
relatively brief <br>
<br>
I think the letter needs to include some information about
the <br>
development of a sustainable funding model and that this
requires the <br>
ability to do longer range planning. I have added some text
to that end. <br>
<br>
I think it is also important to add a bit about the
successes of the <br>
IGF, perhaps including some of the information that is being
collected <br>
on the IGF's effect on the Internet ecosystem in its the
first 9 years. <br>
As the IGF has been collecting this material, perhaps some
examples can <br>
be lifted from that effort/report. I am not aware of the
progress being <br>
made on that report and whether it is available at this
point. <br>
<br>
Thanks to Stephanie and Jeanette for the start that was
made. <br>
<br>
avri <br>
<br>
<br>
On 01-Sep-14 16:49, "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" wrote: <br>
<blockquote type="cite">This is a rasonable text. Probably
it can be shorten a little bit. I support it. <br>
<br>
wolfgang <br>
<br>
<br>
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im Auftrag von Jeanette Hofmann <br>
Gesendet: Mo 01.09.2014 16:46 <br>
An: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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Betreff: [governance] Draft statement on making IGF
permanent <br>
<br>
Hi all, <br>
<br>
Stephanie Perrin and I have drafted a statement that asks
the UN <br>
Secretary to consider renewing the mandate of the IGF on a
permanent basis. <br>
<br>
About 90% of the text are quotes from UN documents
referring to the IGF <br>
and from the NetMundial Statement. <br>
<br>
Our draft is intended to reflect the views of all
stakeholders and <br>
perhaps get a broad endorsement at the end of the IGF. <br>
<br>
Right now, it is just a draft. Changes are welcome. <br>
<br>
We have set up a pad for editing: <br>
<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
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<br>
<br>
For convenience we also paste the text into this email
below. <br>
<br>
The goal is to complete the editing before the end of the
IGF. <br>
<br>
Stephanie and Jeanette <br>
<br>
<br>
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