<html><head><base href="x-msg://2577/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi,<div><br></div><div>Unexpected is quite the word.<div><br></div><div>Milton, is it your intent to wrap-up your ideas or try to speak for all the different views expressed during the IGF? You show constantly so much disdain to others' ideas that I feel a bit concerned? Or shall we get some pure libertarian/US juice, still pro-US-dominatio? Would be interested to learn how you envision your role at this closing ceremony. What means "interesting things to say"? Hmm.</div><div><br></div><div>By the way, with all due respect, do you think Milton this is fair for the IGF closing ceremony to have the two closing speakers at IGF 2014 to be supported by US fundings? Burcu is based in DC - indeed a Turkish expat-, and you are based in Syracuse.</div><div>Dr Kilic is listed as a staff at the President's Office of Public Citizen, a US organization that states: "We fight on behalf of all Americans - to make sure you government works for you". Burcu's twitter account present here as: "<span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(41, 47, 51); font-family: 'Gotham Narrow SSm', sans-serif, Arial; font-size: 14px; line-height: 20px; ">Patent geek, digital rights advocate, IP scholar, lawyer, globetrotter and wannabe photographer; Public Citizen's Global Access to Medicines Program"</span></div><div><br></div><div>I can imagine that such a debate for selecting the two final CS speakers was far from easy.</div><div><br></div><div>But then Milton, assuming that we agree on a multi-view approach, why don't you simply pass on the mic to someone else, for a change, and for a less asymmetric closing ceremony. That would be quite a signal and elegant move. Let's see what the secretariat has to say.</div><div><br></div><div>And maybe one last question to Ian (congratulations for your nomination), what do we expect as CS from the last two speakers? Have you got a pitch on this?</div><div><br></div><div>JC</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>Le 27 août 2014 à 04:56, Milton L Mueller a écrit :</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Optima; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; "><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">This is quite an honor, all the more so for being totally unexpected. I will wait to see if the Secretariat approves these nominees; if so, I promise to have some interesting things to say! Congratulations to<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 78, 121); ">Dr Burcu Kilic as well; I look forward to listening to her.</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Milton L Mueller<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Syracuse University School of Information Studies<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><a href="http://faculty.ischool.syr.edu/mueller/" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; "><span style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); ">http://faculty.ischool.syr.edu/mueller/</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Internet Governance Project<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><a href="http://internetgovernance.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; "><span style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); ">http://internetgovernance.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></a></div><div style="border-top-style: none; border-right-style: none; border-bottom-style: none; border-width: initial; border-color: initial; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: blue; border-left-width: 1.5pt; padding-top: 0in; padding-right: 0in; padding-bottom: 0in; padding-left: 4pt; "><div><div style="border-right-style: none; border-bottom-style: none; border-left-style: none; border-width: initial; border-color: initial; border-top-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); border-top-width: 1pt; padding-top: 3pt; padding-right: 0in; padding-bottom: 0in; padding-left: 0in; "><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[mailto:governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Mawaki Chango<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, August 26, 2014 5:49 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Internet Governance<br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[governance] Fwd: [cs-coord] Civil Society Speakers for IGF Closing Ceremony<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Dear all,<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">The Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG) has forwarded the below two CS nominations to the IGF Secretariat for speaker spots at the Istanbul IGF's closing ceremony. As one of your two IGC co-Coordinators, I have been tasked to represent this Caucus within that Group. Therefore and for your information, I am hereby forwarding the letter addressed by the CSCG Chair to the IGF Secretariat to that effect. At this point in time and in absence of well-developed and established selection procedures, all the Group members have done the best we could to choose those we believe (for various reasons) to be the strongest candidates for this opportunity among all strong candidates. It is our intent and part of our post-Istanbul agenda to work on clearly developing such procedures.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">For now, let us congratulate the nominees, Milton and Burcu.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Mawaki <o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">IGC Co-Coordinator and IGC Rep. to CS Coordination Group<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>Ian Peter</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">ian.peter@ianpeter.com</a>><br>Date: Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 4:21 AM<br>Subject: [cs-coord] Civil Society Speakers for IGF Closing Ceremony<br>To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:igf@unog.ch" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">igf@unog.ch</a><br>Cc:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:cs-coord@lists.bestbits.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">cs-coord@lists.bestbits.net</a>, Subi Chaturvedi <<a href="mailto:subichaturvedi@gmail.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">subichaturvedi@gmail.com</a>><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 10pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; line-height: 13pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: black; ">Dear Secretariat,</span><span style="color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 10pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; line-height: 13pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: black; ">Subi Chaturvedi passed on to us your request for civil society nominations for speakers for this years IGF Closing Ceremony. Thank you for ensuring that civil society is involved in choosing its representatives to speak on this occasion.</span><span style="color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 10pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; line-height: 13pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: black; ">This request was dealt with by the Internet Governance Civil Society Co ordination Group (CSCG). This peak group consists of representatives of the major civil society coalitions involved in Internet Governance issues, including Internet Governance Caucus, Best Bits, Association for Progressive Communications, Diplo Foundation, Just Net Coalition, Civicus, and Non Commercial Stakeholders Group of ICANN. The group, founded in 2013, has a primary role to ensure a co-ordinated civil society response and conduit when it comes to making civil society appointments to outside bodies. This was accepted and respected during the NetMundial (Brazil) process, and by the 1net community, and we will be pleased to also work with IGF in the future as regards civil society representation.</span><span style="color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 10pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; line-height: 13pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: black; ">It was therefore appropriate for this body to consider the question of speakers for the IGF closing session as requested.</span><span style="color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 10pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; line-height: 13pt; "><span style="color: black; ">A</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: black; ">fter calling for expressions of interest and nominations through the various networks, the CSCG discussed prospective speakers and makes the following recommendations.</span><span style="color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 10pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; line-height: 13pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: black; ">Firstly, we believe that civil society must have two speakers. Just like governments or any other stakeholder group, we have more perspectives than can be handled with just one speaking slot, and even with two speakers we feel we are under-represented.</span><span style="color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 10pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; line-height: 13pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: black; ">With this in mind, and bearing also in mind the multistakeholder principle that stakeholders should choose their own representatives, we submit the following two names.</span><span style="color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 10pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; line-height: 13pt; "><span style="color: black; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: black; ">SPEAKER NO 1</span><span style="color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 10pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; line-height: 13pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: black; ">Our first speaker is Dr Burcu Kilic. Dr Kilic is a Turkish citizen who is an expert on legal, economic and political issues surrounding intellectual property law, policy, development and innovation. We are pleased to be able to nominate such a talented speaker from the host country.</span><span style="color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 10pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; line-height: 13pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: black; ">SPEAKER NO 2</span><span style="color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 10pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; line-height: 13pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: black; ">Our second speaker is Dr Milton Mueller. Dr Mueller is<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; color: black; ">a Professor at Syracuse University. His research, teaching and public service for the last 15 years have been concentrated on the internet governance arena.</span><span style="color: black; "> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 10pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; line-height: 13pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: black; ">Please let us know if you need any further information or contact details.</span><span style="color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 10pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; line-height: 13pt; "><span style="color: black; "> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 10pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; line-height: 13pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: black; ">Sincerely,</span><span style="color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 10pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; line-height: 13pt; "><span style="color: black; "> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 10pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; line-height: 13pt; "><span style="color: black; "> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 10pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; line-height: 13pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: black; ">Ian Peter</span><span style="color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 10pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; line-height: 13pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: black; ">Independent Chair, on behalf of the Internet Governance Civil Society Coordination Group</span><span style="color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><br><br>____________________________________________________________<br>You received this message as a subscriber on the list<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:cs-coord@lists.bestbits.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">cs-coord@lists.bestbits.net</a><br><br>For list archives, member roster, unsubscription and other functions visit:<br> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/summit" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/summit</a><br><br>Translate this email:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://translate.google.com/translate_t" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://translate.google.com/translate_t</a><o:p></o:p></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div></div></div>____________________________________________________________<br>You received this message as a subscriber on the list:<br> <a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a><br>To be removed from the list, visit:<br> <a href="http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing</a><br><br>For all other list information and functions, see:<br> <a href="http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance</a><br>To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see:<br> <a href="http://www.igcaucus.org/" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://www.igcaucus.org/</a><br><br>Translate this email:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://translate.google.com/translate_t" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://translate.google.com/translate_t</a><br></div></span></blockquote></div><br></div></div></body></html>