<div dir="ltr"><div>I agree with Jean-Christophe Nothias! +1</div><div>It's time to change, please no more multistakeholder blabla!</div><div>Give a chance an other multivocality.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">2014-08-27 21:55 GMT-03:00 Suresh Ramasubramanian <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:suresh@hserus.net" target="_blank">suresh@hserus.net</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
agree, sort of - but Milton, having represented my day job in industry associations before, I can assure you that consensus plays just as large a role there.<br>
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There is a lot more cohesion though, mostly from a perception that everybody is on the same side and with shared interests, which this caucus sorely lacks from what I can see.<br>
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So yes, please do present your own positions. I find myself agreeing with them more often than not, these days :)<br>
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--srs (iPad)<br>
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> On 28-Aug-2014, at 0:38, Robert Guerra <<a href="mailto:rguerra@privaterra.org">rguerra@privaterra.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Milton,<br>
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> Very well said. I wholeheartedly and without reservation trust your judgement on this.<br>
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> regards<br>
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> Robert<br>
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>> On Aug 27, 2014, at 12:26 PM, Milton L Mueller <<a href="mailto:mueller@syr.edu">mueller@syr.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
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>> A few words about the broader issues related to speaker selection:<br>
>><br>
>> In a group as large and diverse as this, any speaker who does not make any one of us just a little bit uncomfortable is probably not saying anything meaningful or worthwhile. This is one of the reasons IGF as a whole is perilously close to being broken; there are too many lowest common denominator filtering mechanisms that prevent anything challenging from being said or done, especially in main sessions.<br>
>><br>
>> The idea that any speaker would speak for all of civil society, much less every individual on this list, is not just an impossible standard; to my mind it reflects a misunderstanding of what civil society is supposed to be and to do in these environments. We are the free and diverse elements of the governance institution; we are supposed to reflect new and challenging ideas, not to conform or be acceptable. There is not now and never will be a "peak association" that speaks for all of us as if we were a trade association of oil producers or farmers.<br>
>><br>
>> I have 15 years of history in fighting for an institutionalized presence for civil society in Internet governance institutions; I was there when IGF was created and played a role shaping its initial consultations. Throughout that process I've helped to provide representation, speaking platforms and even funding to many people I don't agree with wholly, but am willing to fight for their right to be heard. As a scholar and writer I've taken a number of well-considered positions and performed analyses of key issues. I suspect that the committee chose me for those reasons.<br>
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>> Drawing on that experience, and these perspectives, I will say what I believe needs to be said in the context of the IGF closing.<br>
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>> Milton L Mueller<br>
>> Laura J and L. Douglas Meredith Professor<br>
>> Syracuse University School of Information Studies<br>
>> <a href="http://faculty.ischool.syr.edu/mueller/" target="_blank">http://faculty.ischool.syr.edu/mueller/</a><br>
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>>> -----Original Message-----<br>
>>> From: Suresh Ramasubramanian [mailto:<a href="mailto:suresh@hserus.net">suresh@hserus.net</a>]<br>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2014 4:43 AM<br>
>>> To: Jean-Christophe Nothias<br>
>>> Cc: <a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>; Ian Peter; Milton L Mueller; Mawaki<br>
>>> Chango<br>
>>> Subject: Re: [governance] Fwd: [cs-coord] Civil Society Speakers for IGF<br>
>>> Closing Ceremony<br>
>>><br>
>>> Jean-Christophe Nothias [27/08/14 10:31 +0200]:<br>
>>>> "...opinions are, rightly, excluded..."<br>
>>>> That must reflect on your highly democratic conception of an open debate.<br>
>>>> To exclude rightly is usually part of the extreme right parties narrative.<br>
>>>> Weren't you a multistakeholder equal footing blabla model advocate?<br>
>>><br>
>>> Let us put it this way -<br>
>>><br>
>>> Personally, I am a centrist. I disagree with the extreme left just as much as I<br>
>>> do the extreme right.<br>
>>><br>
>>> In this case, I am a believer in a consensus, which in this case, forms a bell<br>
>>> curve from which the tail has, necessarily, to be excluded in order to get a<br>
>>> sense of what the vast majority of the group wants.<br>
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