<div dir="ltr"><div>Many thanks, Ian.<br><br></div>There was also:<br>Points to be further discussed beyond NETmundial:<br>Several contributions to NETmundial identified the following non-exhaustive list of points that need better understanding and further discussion in appropriate fora:<br>
Different roles and responsibilities of stakeholders in Internet governance,<br>including the meaning and application of <u>equal footing.</u><br> Jurisdiction issues and how they relate to Internet governance.<br> Benchmarking systems and related indicators regarding the application of<br>
Internet governance principles.<br> Net neutrality.<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 10:13 PM, Ian Peter <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com" target="_blank">ian.peter@ianpeter.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>Here’s what was agreed to at Netmundial. I personally have no problem with
any of this, does anyone?</div>
<div> </div>
<div>What I think we need to add to this comes from the discussion Parminder
started, in response to Avri’s posting, as regards limits to multistakeholder
application to final decision making in some instances. But if we are all happy
with what is below, we have a very good start. We could then look at the areas
where we see limits to applicability and the need for further
clarification.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Ian Peter</div>
<div> </div>
<div> </div>
<div>FROM NETMUNDIAL</div>
<div> </div>
<div>INTERNET GOVERNANCE PROCESS PRINCIPLES</div>
<div> Multistakeholder: Internet governance should be built on democratic,
</div>
<div>multistakeholder processes, ensuring the meaningful and accountable </div>
<div>participation of all stakeholders, including governments, the private
sector, </div>
<div>civil society, the technical community, the academic community and
users.</div>
<div>The respective roles and responsibilities of stakeholders should be </div>
<div>interpreted in a flexible manner with reference to the issue under
discussion.</div>
<div> </div>
<div> Open, participative, consensus driven governance: The development of
</div>
<div>international Internet-related public policies and Internet governance
</div>
<div>arrangements should enable the full and balanced participation of all
</div>
<div>stakeholders from around the globe, and made by consensus, to the extent
</div>
<div>possible.</div>
<div> </div>
<div> Transparent: Decisions made must be easy to understand, processes must
</div>
<div>be clearly documented and follow agreed procedures, and procedures must
</div>
<div>be developed and agreed upon through multistakeholder processes.</div>
<div> </div>
<div> Accountable: Mechanisms for independent checks and balances as well as
</div>
<div>for review and redress should exist. Governments have primary, legal and
</div>
<div>political accountability for the protection of human rights</div>
<div> </div>
<div> Inclusive and equitable: Internet governance institutions and processes
</div>
<div>should be inclusive and open to all interested stakeholders. Processes,
</div>
<div>including decision making, should be bottom-up, enabling the full
involvement </div>
<div>of all stakeholders, in a way that does not disadvantage any category of
</div>
<div>stakeholder.</div>
<div> </div>
<div> Distributed: Internet Governance should be carried out through a
distributed, </div>
<div>decentralized and multistakeholder ecosystem.</div>
<div> </div>
<div> Collaborative: Internet governance should be based on and encourage
</div>
<div>collaborative and cooperative approaches that reflect the inputs and
interests </div>
<div>of stakeholders.</div>
<div> </div>
<div> Enabling meaningful participation: Anyone affected by an Internet </div>
<div>governance process should be able to participate in that process.
Particularly, </div>
<div>Internet governance institutions and processes should support capacity
</div>
<div>building for newcomers, especially stakeholders from developing countries
</div>
<div>and underrepresented groups.</div>
<div> </div>
<div> </div>
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<div><b>From:</b> <a title="williams.deirdre@gmail.com" href="mailto:williams.deirdre@gmail.com" target="_blank">Deirdre Williams</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 30, 2014 1:36 AM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="governance@lists.igcaucus.org" href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org" target="_blank">Internet Governance</a> ; <a title="kichango@gmail.com" href="mailto:kichango@gmail.com" target="_blank">Mawaki Chango</a>
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<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: CS consensual statement on MSism WAS Re: [governance]
Vint Verf tells us the conclusion of the complex IANA transition
process</div></div></div></div>
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<div dir="ltr">I have a suggestion which I hope won't be considered too flippant.
There's a game, at least in English, for whiling away long car journeys, in
which the participants take turns to suggest adjectives, in alphabetical order,
for "the parson's cat".
<div>Our "parson's cat" is "multistakeholderism"</div>
<div>My turn first - I suggest that an attribute of multistakeholderism is
"inclusive", that we share a common understanding that multistakeholderism is
(or should be) a way towards more inclusive participation in the IG debate and
decision making.</div>
<div>Next person - either suggest another attribute that you think we perceive
in common, or take what I proposed and qualify it as you think necessary - "but
....", or both.</div>
<div>This way we can build up a list of attributes in common while at the same
time being made aware of the reservations and exceptions that people may
have.</div>
<div>Could that work?</div>
<div>Deirdre</div></div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 29 July 2014 11:05, Mawaki Chango <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kichango@gmail.com" target="_blank">kichango@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div class="gmail_extra">I personally endorsed the use of that phrase earlier on
the basis, and only on the basis, that this is work in progress, that we are
right in this thread and in a couple of others related seeking to hammer out a
common understanding. So I have been listening and hope I am being listened to
as well. There will be a point where we might reach and declare some common
understanding or we will have to acknowledge our failure to reach such
outcome.</div>
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<div class="gmail_extra">Are we there yet?</div><span><font color="#888888">
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<div class="gmail_extra"><span><font color="#888888">Mawaki</font></span>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Norbert Bollow <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nb@bollow.ch" target="_blank">nb@bollow.ch</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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there really a common understanding of multistakeholderism? I don't<br>think
so, and I would further suggest that it will be a good starting<br>point to
acknowledge that currently there are several different<br>understandings of
multistakeholderism, and to therefore start listening<br>to each other with
a goal of learning how others may understand<br>“multistakeholderism”
differently.<br><br>Greetings,<br>Norbert<br>
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<div><br>On Tue, 29 Jul 2014 10:31:29 -0400<br>Deirdre Williams <<a href="mailto:williams.deirdre@gmail.com" target="_blank">williams.deirdre@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br>> +1 for
common understanding.<br>> Deirdre<br>><br>><br>> On 29 July
2014 10:16, Mawaki Chango <<a href="mailto:kichango@gmail.com" target="_blank">kichango@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>><br>> > I am ok
with "common understanding" (putting the emphasis in my last<br>> >
sentence below on the term "understand" rather than on<br>> >
"definition'.) Note: at times some may also refer to it as working<br>>
> definition, whatever designation people are comfortable with
works<br>> > fine for me, but I like the modest and cooperative tone
in "common<br>> > understanding".<br>> ><br>> >
Mawaki<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 1:34
PM, Nnenna Nwakanma<br>> > <<a href="mailto:nnenna75@gmail.com" target="_blank">nnenna75@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>> ><br>>
>> Should we seek "a common understanding" instead of
"definition"?<br>> >><br>> >> Just asking<br>>
>><br>> >> N<br>> >><br>> >><br>>
>> On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Mawaki Chango<br>> >>
<<a href="mailto:kichango@gmail.com" target="_blank">kichango@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>> >><br>>
>>><br>> >>> On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 9:11 AM,
Mwendwa Kivuva <<br>> >>> <a href="mailto:Kivuva@transworldafrica.com" target="_blank">Kivuva@transworldafrica.com</a>> wrote:<br>>
>>><br>> >>>> Ian, probably multistakeholder is
not defined yet because it is<br>> >>>> composed of two
words multiple-stakeholders. And stakeholder too<br>> >>>> is
composed of two words stake-holder. Technically then,<br>>
>>>> Multistakeholder is composed of three words<br>>
>>>><br>> >>><br>> >>> It's a totally
different question as to whether<br>> >>> "mutistakeholderism"
needs to be defined despite being made up of<br>> >>> parts that
are familiar. And I think all definition questions<br>> >>> boil
down to people struggling to understand precisely what<br>> >>>
"mutistakeholderism" is or should be.<br>> >>><br>>
>>> Mawaki<br>> >>><br>> >>>
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