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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Monday 28 July 2014 07:45 PM,
françoise wrote:<br>
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<div>Please find the link to a summary of the recent Report from
the French Senate and the pdf doc :
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The points made in this report have great congruence with points
made in the principles of the Just Net Coalition at
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://justnetcoalition.org/delhi-declaration">http://justnetcoalition.org/delhi-declaration</a><br>
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parminder<br>
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<div>It's an official Report, but who knows its destiny ???</div>
<div>Best regards,</div>
<div>FMF</div>
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<div>Le 28 juil. 14 à 13:28, parminder a écrit :</div>
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I think that NTIA divesting itself of the IANA
authority is a very good thing. However, withdrawal of
direct executive control over the root zone is hardly
enough. The root zone should be free from all legal
and legislative controls of any one country, including
any possibility of unilateral application any such
control in the future. This is the single most
important issue with regard to determining where
should the IANA authority now vest. <br>
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The reason I consider the NTIA transition process to
be a sham is that its framing of the IANA issue is
deliberately misleading. It misleadingly declares IANA
'function' to be a merely clerical one. This is such
an affront to the global community which knows very
well that for the last 15 years or so the single most
prominent geopolitical issue in global Internet
governance has been the issue of a single country's
oversight of the Internet, representing in its IANA
authority.<br>
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How can this major political issue be rendered as a
clerical and technical issue by a simple sleigh of
hand. This to me is in fact cheating. <br>
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However, the IANA process is being able to fool only
those who are ready or even eager to be fooled. It
does not actually take away one of the major global IG
issues from the table. We all know that IANA authority
will now be handed over to ICANN. Yes, US leaving the
executive control over IANA is good. However, ICANN
cannot be left politically unsupervised. (In fact, US
jurisdiction will continue to undertake ICANN's
political/ legal oversight.) ICANN should be
incorporated under international law, giving it full
immunity from US jurisdiction, and be put under clear
rules based oversight of an appropriate global body,
which need not be typical inter-governmental.<br>
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And, yes, people have given specific institutional
models to achieve this. See for instance the
submission of Just Net Coalition to NetMundial at <a
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. Specifically see point 3 of the proposed
institutional roadmap. <br>
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regards<br>
parminder <br>
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12:13 AM, David Conrad wrote:<br>
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<pre wrap="">Parminder,
On Jul 27, 2014, at 1:36 AM, parminder <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net"><parminder@itforchange.net></a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">I dont see why we should not already be seeking such a body
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<pre wrap="">No one is stopping you (or whoever 'we' is in the above). You (or whoever 'we' is in the above) just need to come up with something that is at least as trusted by resolver operators of the world as the current system, then convince those operators to make use of that zone maintenance/signing/distribution system.
My suspicion is that this will be a hard sell for a variety of reasons, however the first step is to actually come up with a proposal that resolver operators (not politicians) might look at and decide if they want to play along.
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<pre wrap="">In fact we now already have a US court decision to sieze .ir from the root file.
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<pre wrap="">As far as I am aware, despite that court decision, .IR remains in the root and nothing has changed with respect to its registration information.
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<pre wrap="">IANA transition issue is supposed to be basically about these huge current and impending problems.
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<pre wrap="">My understanding of the transition of the stewardship of IANA is that it is about removing NTIA from its current role. That seems to be a more focused scope that what you believe the IANA transition is supposed to be about. I'm unsure where you derived your view of the IANA transition, but you might want to reread <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.ntia.doc.gov/press-release/2014/ntia-announces-intent-transition-key-internet-domain-name-functions">http://www.ntia.doc.gov/press-release/2014/ntia-announces-intent-transition-key-internet-domain-name-functions</a>.
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<pre wrap="">The fact that we have a complete sham being carried out right now in the name of IANA transition is something at least civil society should sit up and reflect about...
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<pre wrap="">As far as I can tell, NTIA and the various folks involved in the transition appear to be are quite serious about wanting to remove NTIA from its current role. I'm unsure why you would consider it a 'sham' unless of course you're accusing the transition participants of not pursuing your personal view of the transition. If that is indeed the case, then I suspect the problem does not really lie with them.
Regards,
-drc
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