<div dir="ltr">I agree with Mawaki's suggestion to share ideas about this issue online. Apart from other considerations the list provides a much more inclusive space for discussion. Many IGC members haven't even considered the possibility of going to Istanbul for all sorts of reasons - family obligations, funding, travel restrictions, work ... I am lucky enough to be able to consider going, but I'm still looking for funds.<div>
<br></div><div>My take on the IGC? I still feel that, in spite of all the difficulties there have been, the IGC still provides a space to aggregate many of the differing views that "civil society" holds about Internet governance. Please note that I said "many" not "all". I believe that this aggregation is important and useful, and worth investing some energy to ensure that it continues.</div>
<div><br></div><div>To create an umbrella organisation like ICCBasis - I agree with what Michael Gurstein said later in this thread, thank him for reminding us of the part played by trust (lack of) in this whole consideration, and would like to comment directly on some of the points he raises.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I hope very much that this will be a fruitful and productive discussion.</div><div>Deirdre<br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 26 June 2014 13:04, Mawaki Chango <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kichango@gmail.com" target="_blank">kichango@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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Thanks for the suggestion. However, could we start the discussion here and formulate ideas, propositions that may then shape the agenda for further IGC discussion in Istanbul? Unless one thinks that would be totally counter-productive to start this process on this list, this might be IMHO a more inclusive option (particularly in case we don't have remote participation logistic in place in Istanbul for this kind of preparatory/parallel meeting.)</div>
<div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(80,0,80)"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(80,0,80)">Now personally and at this point in time, I have no resources to physically attend the upcoming IGF, and I'm not even sure Deirdre has -- which is not to say no IGC face-to-face meeting cannot take place without both cocos. But I think it would be a good thing to have something prepared ahead of time for any such meeting, with or without the physical presence of any or both cocos. </div>
<div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(80,0,80)"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(80,0,80)">Thanks,</div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(80,0,80)">
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 4:06 PM, chlebrum . <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:chlebrum@gmail.com" target="_blank">chlebrum@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Yes, good idea. We could have a face-to-face at Istanbul IGF meeting. Turkish complex is very big so perhaps we could have a room for this...</div>
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EUROLINC</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2014-06-26 17:52 GMT+02:00 Baudouin Schombe <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:baudouin.schombe@gmail.com" target="_blank">baudouin.schombe@gmail.com</a>></span>:<div>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hello everyone, Mawaki Hello, </div><div><br></div><div>I think that after the NetMundial Sao Paulo, we must consider the evolution of our caucus relative to the current context. Is what to revise or redefine the guidelines or objectives of the IGC? </div>
<div><br></div><div>The IGC has made his experience since 2003 and is one of the few platforms of civil society exist and is still operational. </div><div><br></div><div>ICANN is mutating slowly towards autonomous international stature, IGF gradually consolidated at the national level and what can be the role of the IGC in the coming years?</div>
<div><br></div><div>I propose the organization of a workshop for all members, a workshop face to face, so we can discuss the future of the IGC.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2014-06-26 14:01 GMT+02:00 Mawaki Chango <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kichango@gmail.com" target="_blank">kichango@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div><div dir="ltr">Dear Members,<div><br></div><div>This is an informal inquiry I would like to launch to hear from IGC members or list subscribers and collect your ideas about where we should go from here, as the Internet Governance Caucus. </div>
<div><br></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px">Particularly, please share your thoughts as to whether, in this context of IG or Information Society more broadly, civil society </span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px">needs an analogue to what ICC BASIS (</span><font face="arial, sans-serif"><a href="http://www.iccwbo.org/advocacy-codes-and-rules/basis/" target="_blank">http://www.iccwbo.org/advocacy-codes-and-rules/basis/</a>) </font><span style="font-size:12.727272033691406px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">is doing for business, and if so, </span><span style="font-size:12.727272033691406px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">what this would need to be like.</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:12.727272033691406px;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.727272033691406px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">Thanks for your cooperation.</span></div><span><font color="#888888"><div>
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