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<DIV>Yes, all end users. It is a simple matter of participating. groups and
individuals participate. Even governments participate. Just visit the ICANN
website. It is public.</DIV>
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<DIV>ROK</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=williams.deirdre@gmail.com
href="mailto:williams.deirdre@gmail.com">Deirdre Williams</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, June 19, 2014 8:16 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=governance@lists.igcaucus.org
href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">Internet Governance</A> ; <A
title=ian.peter@ianpeter.com href="mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com">Ian Peter</A>
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [bestbits] Re: [governance] Your key ICANN issues as a
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On 19 June 2014 17:51, Ian Peter <SPAN dir=ltr><<A
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<DIV>John, the focus is very much on the narrow “internet community” rather
than the broader community of internet users. I think that should
change.</DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<DIV>In fact the next message to arrive in my mail after Ian's was an ICANN News
Alert - Universal Acceptance of TLDs Draft Roadmap which gives as its
Purpose (Brief): <SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif">To solicit
community comment on draft roadmap for the Universal Acceptance Initiative.
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<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif">There are a couple of loose
terms in this: "universal" and "community". During the ICANN session at
NETmundial I asked who ICANN meant when it uses the term "community". I'm still
not sure of the answer. Roosevelt (ROK) in an earlier message in this string
wrote "ICANN is about end users". So now I would like to know - all end users or
just some of them?</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif">I share Ian's concern about the
committee of 27 that he mentions below. Following NETmundial I expected this
committee to be inclusive in nature, but in fact it is exclusive in its
composition since it indicates very precisely where delegates should come
from.</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV>As an example I could mention the currently being formed committee of 27
(!) to look at IANA transition, which cant even find one dedicated space for
civil society among its members. Although I certainly wouldnt recommend
expanding the committee beyond 27 because it is already too large to be
efficient, I do think the most likely outcome is going to be a quagmire
extending its deliberations way beyond
2015.</DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif">It feels very uncomfortable to
play dungeons and dragons with language. There are progressively fewer of the
words we currently use in these discussions that we can rely on not to commit us
to something we didn't intend when we use them. </SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif">Do others share this concern?
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<DIV><B>From:</B> <A title=jcurran@istaff.org href="mailto:jcurran@istaff.org"
target=_blank>John Curran</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, June 20, 2014 7:23 AM</DIV>
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target=_blank>Nnenna Nwakanma</A> ; <A title=bestbits@lists.bestbits.net
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<DIV>On Jun 19, 2014, at 5:07 PM, Ian Peter <<A
href="mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com"
target=_blank>ian.peter@ianpeter.com</A>> wrote:<BR>
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<DIV>ICANN collects Internet taxes from domain name owners. It is a non
profit company.</DIV>
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<DIV>I would like to see ICANN devote a percentage of its considerable
income to addressing social issues associated with the Internet, eg digital
divide. </DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Ian - </DIV>
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<DIV> To the extent that ICANN is recovering costs associated with
the registry </DIV>
<DIV> policy development or registry administration, I am not sure
it's appropriate</DIV>
<DIV> to characterize them them as "Internet taxes". </DIV>
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<DIV> The use of such proceeds to facilitate global participation
in the policy </DIV>
<DIV> development process, or accountability and transparency
review, or </DIV>
<DIV> similar registry-related capacity-building makes perfect
sense, but that</DIV>
<DIV> is probably more focused than the type of activities you are
suggesting?</DIV>
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<DIV>Thanks,</DIV>
<DIV>/John</DIV>
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<DIV>Disclaimer: my views alone.</DIV>
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