<p dir="ltr">Thanks for the clarification Sumandro.</p>
<p dir="ltr">------<br>
Rgds,</p>
<p dir="ltr">Tracy</p>
<p dir="ltr">Â Â Â </p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Apr 25, 2014 2:54 AM, "sumandro" <<a href="mailto:mail@ajantriks.net">mail@ajantriks.net</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Dear Tracy,<br>
<br>
My name is Sumandro. I was working with Jyoti and Geetha on these<br>
visualisations, and I created the maps we are discussing.<br>
<br>
Trinidad and Tobago is mentioned both as a country that has submitted a<br>
contribution to NETmundial and a country whose government has submitted<br>
contribution to the same.<br>
<br>
I am very sorry that the limitation of the projection and the size of<br>
the map leads to Trinidad and Tobago not showing up at all.<br>
<br>
Just to check you can go to the page<br>
(<<a href="http://ajantriks.github.io/netmundial/map_no_contrib.html" target="_blank">http://ajantriks.github.io/netmundial/map_no_contrib.html</a>> and<br>
<<a href="http://ajantriks.github.io/netmundial/map_no_contrib_govt.html" target="_blank">http://ajantriks.github.io/netmundial/map_no_contrib_govt.html</a>>) and<br>
view the source of the page. In the source, look for the variable 'data'<br>
and you will see that TTO is listed as one of the countries (and<br>
governments) that submitted contribution.<br>
<br>
Bests,<br>
<br>
sumandro<br>
<br>
----------------------------------------------<br>
<br>
sumandro chattapadhyay<br>
<br>
research associate<br>
the sarai programme<br>
centre for the study of developing societies<br>
<<a href="http://sarai.net" target="_blank">sarai.net</a>><br>
<br>
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<br>
On 04/25/2014 03:04 AM, Tracy F. Hackshaw @ Google wrote:<br>
> Hello:<br>
><br>
> Trinidad and Tobago contributed as a country (and as a Government)<br>
><br>
> ------<br>
> Rgds,<br>
><br>
> Tracy<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Apr 24, 2014 3:55 PM, "Pranesh Prakash" <<a href="mailto:pranesh@cis-india.org">pranesh@cis-india.org</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:pranesh@cis-india.org">pranesh@cis-india.org</a>>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Â Â Dear Deirdre,<br>
> Â Â I'm sorry we weren't clearer. We should have clarified that we<br>
> Â Â weren't looking at all "contributions", but specifically at the 187<br>
> Â Â formal submissions made in the beginning of April and archived here:<br>
> Â Â <a href="http://content.netmundial.br/__docs/contribs" target="_blank">http://content.netmundial.br/__docs/contribs</a><br>
> Â Â <<a href="http://content.netmundial.br/docs/contribs" target="_blank">http://content.netmundial.br/docs/contribs</a>><br>
><br>
> Â Â Regards,<br>
> Â Â Pranesh<br>
><br>
> Â Â sumandro <<a href="mailto:mail@ajantriks.net">mail@ajantriks.net</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:mail@ajantriks.net">mail@ajantriks.net</a>>><br>
> Â Â [2014-04-25 00:55:25 +0530]:<br>
><br>
> Â Â Â Â Dear Deirdre,<br>
><br>
> Â Â Â Â My name is Sumandro. I was working with Jyoti and Geetha on these<br>
> Â Â Â Â visualisations, and I created this map we are discussing.<br>
><br>
> Â Â Â Â Firstly, I am very sorry that the map has not been labelled<br>
> Â Â Â Â clearly. As<br>
> Â Â Â Â the text below the map mentions,"[t]he map shows (in *green*)<br>
> Â Â Â Â all the<br>
> Â Â Â Â countries from where no contributions (by any kinds of organisation)<br>
> Â Â Â Â have been submitted to NETmundial. Countries appearing in<br>
> Â Â Â Â *white* are<br>
> Â Â Â Â those from where contributions have been submitted."<br>
><br>
> Â Â Â Â The map is meant not at all as a criticism of the countries in<br>
> Â Â Â Â green for<br>
> Â Â Â Â not 'contributing' to NETmundial, but to point out the limitation of<br>
> Â Â Â Â NETmundial as a global event since it has failed to attract written<br>
> Â Â Â Â submissions towards setting up its agenda from the countries<br>
> Â Â Â Â shown in green.<br>
><br>
> Â Â Â Â I have just renamed the map to "Which Countries have Not Submitted<br>
> Â Â Â Â Contributions to NETmundial". This is a more clearer name I think.<br>
><br>
> Â Â Â Â I also agree with your point about the bias that maps create against<br>
> Â Â Â Â countries of smaller geographic sizes. Trinidad and Tobago is<br>
> Â Â Â Â listed in<br>
> Â Â Â Â this map as one of those countries that has submitted<br>
> Â Â Â Â contributions to<br>
> Â Â Â Â NETmundial. It unfortunately does not show up on the map due to the<br>
> Â Â Â Â problem you have pointed out.<br>
><br>
> Â Â Â Â For the same reason we used a non-map based chart to show the<br>
> Â Â Â Â contributions from different regions and countries:<br>
> Â Â Â Â <<a href="http://ajantriks.github.io/__netmundial/contributions___countries.html" target="_blank">http://ajantriks.github.io/__netmundial/contributions___countries.html</a><br>
> Â Â Â Â <<a href="http://ajantriks.github.io/netmundial/contributions_countries.html" target="_blank">http://ajantriks.github.io/netmundial/contributions_countries.html</a>>><br>
><br>
> Â Â Â Â Once again, I am sorry for the undesired meaning that the maps<br>
> Â Â Â Â carried.<br>
> Â Â Â Â The point of this map (and the one for the governments that did not<br>
> Â Â Â Â submit a contribution) is again to indicate at the structural forces<br>
> Â Â Â Â that shape ability of actors and countries to access Internet,<br>
> Â Â Â Â and also<br>
> Â Â Â Â to take part in discussing how it should be governed.<br>
><br>
> Â Â Â Â Regards,<br>
><br>
> Â Â Â Â sumandro<br>
><br>
> Â Â Â Â ------------------------------__----------------<br>
><br>
> Â Â Â Â sumandro chattapadhyay<br>
><br>
> Â Â Â Â research associate<br>
> Â Â Â Â the sarai programme<br>
> Â Â Â Â centre for the study of developing societies<br>
> Â Â Â Â <<a href="http://sarai.net" target="_blank">sarai.net</a> <<a href="http://sarai.net" target="_blank">http://sarai.net</a>>><br>
><br>
> Â Â Â Â <<a href="http://ajantriks.net" target="_blank">ajantriks.net</a> <<a href="http://ajantriks.net" target="_blank">http://ajantriks.net</a>>><br>
> Â Â Â Â <<a href="http://ajantriks.net/__sumandro_pgp_public.asc" target="_blank">http://ajantriks.net/__sumandro_pgp_public.asc</a><br>
> Â Â Â Â <<a href="http://ajantriks.net/sumandro_pgp_public.asc" target="_blank">http://ajantriks.net/sumandro_pgp_public.asc</a>>><br>
><br>
> Â Â Â Â On 04/24/2014 10:25 PM, Deirdre Williams wrote:<br>
><br>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Dear Geetha,<br>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Thank you for the information, but on (as you might say) a<br>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â point of<br>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â order - please clarify what is meant by "contributed to<br>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â NETmundial". I<br>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â participated remotely all day yesterday and so far today,<br>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â and observed<br>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â several interventions from Cuba and the Dominican Republic<br>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â (I'm from the<br>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Caribbean) which are clearly marked (and labelled) on your<br>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â map as not<br>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â contributing. My own particular small island is too small to<br>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â show on the<br>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â map although it is a sovereign country, as is Trinidad and<br>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Tobago which<br>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â also isn't there. There were contributions both to the draft<br>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â document<br>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â and to the meeting from both small island states.<br>
><br>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Aggregated information like this needs to be handled rather<br>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â carefully,<br>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â and small countries are important too. I have limited my<br>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â comments to my<br>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â own casual knowledge of my own region - the Caribbean.<br>
><br>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Deirdre<br>
><br>
><br>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â On 24 April 2014 12:29, Geetha Hariharan<br>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â <<a href="mailto:geetha@cis-india.org">geetha@cis-india.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:geetha@cis-india.org">geetha@cis-india.org</a>><br>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â <mailto:<a href="mailto:geetha@cis-india.org">geetha@cis-india.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:geetha@cis-india.org">geetha@cis-india.org</a>>>><br>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â wrote:<br>
><br>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Some interesting visualisations from Centre for<br>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Internet and Society<br>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â about the NETmundial contributions. The visualisations<br>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â have been done by<br>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Sumandro Chattapadhyay based on quantitative data<br>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â gatherered from the<br>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â contributions.<br>
><br>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Tracking word use: 'multi-stakeholder' and<br>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â 'multi-stakeholderism' across<br>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â all NETmundial contributions:<br>
><br>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â <a href="http://ajantriks.github.io/__netmundial/track___multistakeholder.html" target="_blank">http://ajantriks.github.io/__netmundial/track___multistakeholder.html</a><br>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â <<a href="http://ajantriks.github.io/netmundial/track_multistakeholder.html" target="_blank">http://ajantriks.github.io/netmundial/track_multistakeholder.html</a>><br>
><br>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Which countries have not contributed to NETmundial:<br>
><br>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â <a href="http://cis-india.org/internet-__governance/blog/net-mundial-__which-countries-have-not-__contributed-to-net-mundial" target="_blank">http://cis-india.org/internet-__governance/blog/net-mundial-__which-countries-have-not-__contributed-to-net-mundial</a><br>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â <<a href="http://cis-india.org/internet-governance/blog/net-mundial-which-countries-have-not-contributed-to-net-mundial" target="_blank">http://cis-india.org/internet-governance/blog/net-mundial-which-countries-have-not-contributed-to-net-mundial</a>><br>
><br>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Which governments have not contributed to NETmundial:<br>
><br>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â <a href="http://cis-india.org/internet-__governance/blog/net-mundial-__which-governments-have-not-__contributed-to-net-mundial" target="_blank">http://cis-india.org/internet-__governance/blog/net-mundial-__which-governments-have-not-__contributed-to-net-mundial</a><br>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â <<a href="http://cis-india.org/internet-governance/blog/net-mundial-which-governments-have-not-contributed-to-net-mundial" target="_blank">http://cis-india.org/internet-governance/blog/net-mundial-which-governments-have-not-contributed-to-net-mundial</a>><br>
><br>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â NETmundial contributions, visualised by countries of<br>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â origin:<br>
><br>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â <a href="http://cis-india.org/internet-__governance/blog/net-mundial-__contributions-by-countries-of-__origin" target="_blank">http://cis-india.org/internet-__governance/blog/net-mundial-__contributions-by-countries-of-__origin</a><br>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â <<a href="http://cis-india.org/internet-governance/blog/net-mundial-contributions-by-countries-of-origin" target="_blank">http://cis-india.org/internet-governance/blog/net-mundial-contributions-by-countries-of-origin</a>><br>
><br>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â What organisations have submitted contributions to<br>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â NETmundial?<br>
><br>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â <a href="http://cis-india.org/internet-__governance/blog/net-mundial-__contributions-by-types-of-__organisation" target="_blank">http://cis-india.org/internet-__governance/blog/net-mundial-__contributions-by-types-of-__organisation</a><br>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â <<a href="http://cis-india.org/internet-governance/blog/net-mundial-contributions-by-types-of-organisation" target="_blank">http://cis-india.org/internet-governance/blog/net-mundial-contributions-by-types-of-organisation</a>><br>
><br>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Some word-counts:<br>
><br>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â <a href="http://cis-india.org/internet-__governance/blog/net-mundial-__comparing-appearance-of-fifty-__most-frequent-words" target="_blank">http://cis-india.org/internet-__governance/blog/net-mundial-__comparing-appearance-of-fifty-__most-frequent-words</a><br>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â <<a href="http://cis-india.org/internet-governance/blog/net-mundial-comparing-appearance-of-fifty-most-frequent-words" target="_blank">http://cis-india.org/internet-governance/blog/net-mundial-comparing-appearance-of-fifty-most-frequent-words</a>><br>
><br>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â <a href="http://cis-india.org/internet-__governance/blog/net-mundial-__word-clouds-of-contributions-__by-types-of-organisation" target="_blank">http://cis-india.org/internet-__governance/blog/net-mundial-__word-clouds-of-contributions-__by-types-of-organisation</a><br>
> Â Â Â Â Â Â <<a href="http://cis-india.org/internet-governance/blog/net-mundial-word-clouds-of-contributions-by-types-of-organisation" target="_blank">http://cis-india.org/internet-governance/blog/net-mundial-word-clouds-of-contributions-by-types-of-organisation</a>><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
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