<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>I believe we need to focus on principles if we can come out with anything in just two days.</div><div>From my point of view, being Brazilian, I don't see as relevance who owns the event.</div><div>Multistakeholder really needs to be well defined to avoid misunderstanding. There are some tendency to misuse the term. </div><div>Welcome you all here in São Paulo and safe trip to all</div><div><br>Vanda Scartezini<div>Sent from my iPhone</div></div><div><br>On 21/04/2014, at 12:07, Deirdre Williams <<a href="mailto:williams.deirdre@gmail.com">williams.deirdre@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr"><p>In the two days left to us before the meeting begins I think we
might generate not a statement but rather a list of questions which
the meeting needs to address and if possible answer.</p>
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<p>I asked, on the Netmundial document, for definitions, because it
seems clearer and clearer to me that we are all using the term
“multistakeholder” but we do NOT all mean the same thing by it.</p>
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<p>I should also like a clear statement on the “ownership” of the
Netmundial meeting: initially it was a meeting called by Brazil, then
it became a meeting called by Brazil and ICANN, recently it acquired
twelve governments as co-hosts … so whose meeting is it? That
matters a lot.</p>
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<p>Then considering Garth's comments on Saturday in the Netmundial –
Remote Participation thread
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<p>“<font color="#222222"> </font><font color="#222222"><font face="arial, sans-serif"><font style="font-size:9pt">I
just completed a fast scan of the meaning of stakeholder implicit in
the NETmundial document and posted it as a “whole page” comment
to that introduction page. I found that stakeholders are not
anyone who self-identifies as such. They are qualified into
collective categories of organizations that are then “represented.”
It would be consistent with that implicit assumption to
aggregate individuals into “hubs” (or as ICANN does, into
internal “communities”). But it’s not good “Internet”
if the choice to connect doesn’t rest at the level of the
individual.” </font></font></font>
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<p><font color="#222222"><font face="Times New Roman, serif"><font size="3">and
Karl's discussion a week or so ago on the issue of “we and me” I
would like to know what is being proposed in terms of establishing
and protecting the balance between the rights of the group and the
rights of the individual. As “civil society” (another term which
needs a definition) our interests should tip in favour of “we” -
after all we call ourselves “society” - but “civil society”,
at least as I understand it, is a coming together of individuals with
highly diverse needs and affiliations – for the society to work the
members must be satisfied, as they surrender some of their freedoms
to the needs of the group, that their individual necessities have
also been considered.</font></font></font></p>
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<p><font color="#222222"><font face="Times New Roman, serif"><font size="3">And
yes – there needs to be clarification about process. Not only do we
need to ask for clarification but also it would be excellent if we
had some proposals ready to make in terms of this – probably too
big a task for two days?</font></font></font></p>
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<p><font color="#222222"><font face="Times New Roman, serif"><font size="3">Do
other people share the 4 concerns listed above – there is already
discussion about the last one? Any other ideas?</font></font></font></p><p><font color="#222222"><font face="Times New Roman, serif"><font size="3">Deirdre</font></font></font></p><div><br></div>-- <br>“The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir William Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979
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