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<DIV>I agree with your point Michael. I am travelling now, but I think you
should make the point in NetMundial document somehow that extending
multistakeholderism to all aspects on governance “on the internet” could be
problematic and does not have universal agreement.</DIV>
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<DIV>Ian Peter </DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=gurstein@gmail.com
href="mailto:gurstein@gmail.com">michael gurstein</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, April 19, 2014 6:29 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=drc@virtualized.org
href="mailto:drc@virtualized.org">'David Conrad'</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=discuss@1net.org href="mailto:discuss@1net.org">'1Net
List'</A> ; <A title=governance@lists.igcaucus.org
href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</A>
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [discuss] [governance] [ciresearchers] NETmundial
documentsonline for comment</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">David (and
McTim<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">I believe I responded to your
comments in my reply to Mike Roberts<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><I><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">“a strong case has been made
for multistakeholder processes in the governance of the technical aspects of the
Internet. However, much of the NetMundial discussion is concerning the
governance of activities which take place “on” the Internet (such as
surveillance for example)”.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></I></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">(In ICANN’s onionskin model of
the Internet this would correspond to the “content”, “social” and (I would argue
the unreasonably overlooked) “economic” layers where traditional democratic
governance structures and processes have a long and valuable history. For
these layers, MSism would seem to be little more than an attempt by various
corporate forces to get a seat at the table (and thus a dominant position) in
decision making and efforts by certain governments to ensure them of these
opportunities.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> David Conrad
[mailto:drc@virtualized.org] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, April 18, 2014 7:36
PM<BR><B>To:</B> michael gurstein<BR><B>Cc:</B> 1Net List;
governance@lists.igcaucus.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [governance]
[ciresearchers] NETmundial documents online for
comment<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Michael,<o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>On Apr 18, 2014, at 5:08 AM, michael gurstein <<A
href="mailto:gurstein@gmail.com">gurstein@gmail.com</A>>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Clearly there is an intent to replace democratic governance
with multistakeholder governance. But this issue is not addressed in a
forthright manner anywhere in the document.<o:p></o:p></P></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Assuming you're talking about Internet governance, "to
replace democratic governance" implies that it exists (or at least has). Can you
explain why you believe this?<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Regards,<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>-drc<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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