<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#333333">The Indian Civil Society letter makes me uncomfortable because it makes such a strong allegation against two individuals. </div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#333333"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#333333">One individual targeted is Virat Bhatia, about whom I heard a good opinion concerning his interest in getting our Government to pay better attention to Internet Governance issues. This opinion came from someone who is quite capable of judging people. Months later I met him during the India Internet Conference, which was an initiative that he led and did very well (In that Conference organized by him, I saw some of the the signatories of this letter or representatives from their organization as invitees, seated equally in panel discussions); </div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#333333"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#333333">The other person targeted, Subi, struck me as a very resourceful organizer who could have been a source of strength for that Conference, this was visible, she brought in student participation, and the Conference, despite some shortcomings, was a well organized event with a good quality of participation. </div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#333333"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#333333">During the India Internet Conference and in the Internet Governance Forum, Subi Chaturvedi was quite noticeable by the strength of the quality of her interventions. Many noticed her for the way she participated even as a new comer to Internet Governance, and a few would have felt that a participant like her should be encouraged. If Virat Bhatia had recommended her to positions, and he happens to be working for a Telecom Company, I would still look at it as a Grey situation: a Telecom Company, an Executive with the usual functions of promoting a company's interests in Business situations, The same Indian Executive with a possibly individual interest in Internet Governance, possibly wanting to improve India's participation in Internet Governance, a successful College Teacher who is noticed in a new environment and encouraged, a not-so-exhaustive effort to find Civil Society candidates for MAG or NETmundial, some possible flaws on the part of one of the individuals, all conveniently brought together and sensationally interpreted with a bias possibly out of misunderstanding and an inclination to rush to a conclusion. </div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#333333"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#333333">Positive judgements could be rushed, not much harm done if the positive judgement goes wrong, but such a strong negative judgement should wait, because of its potential to do irreparable damage to the person. If the signatories wanted a change, with or without a compelling reason, they could have handled it in so many other subtle ways.</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#333333"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#333333">Sivasubramanian M</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 2:28 AM, Mwendwa Kivuva <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Kivuva@transworldafrica.com" target="_blank">Kivuva@transworldafrica.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">If Civil Society does not get a favourable outcome in the meeting,<br>
will civil society conclude that "powerful lobbies" planted a mole to<br>
steer their agenda as the co-chair and that is why they lost?<br>
<br>
Can we say with confidence that Chaturvedi will(not) represent the<br>
interests of the Civil Society?<br>
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On 11/04/2014, michael gurstein <<a href="mailto:gurstein@gmail.com" target="_blank">gurstein@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> The issue of "personal" vs. "political" still stands.<br>
><br>
> The question is who put her on/nominated her for the MAG and for what<br>
> purpose... It clearly wasn't CS as she wasn't nominated by any of the<br>
> conventional CS processes and to the best of my knowledge no alternative CS<br>
> process has come forward to acknowledge them having nominated her...<br>
><br>
> M<br>
><br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: <a href="mailto:governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org" target="_blank">governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org</a><br>
> [mailto:<a href="mailto:governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org" target="_blank">governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org</a>] On Behalf Of Norbert Bollow<br>
> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 9:16 AM<br>
> To: <a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org" target="_blank">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a><br>
> Subject: Re: [governance] Re: [bestbits] Letters from Indian Civil Society<br>
> organisations to the Chair of NetMundial regarding appointment of civil<br>
> society co-chair<br>
><br>
> Am Fri, 11 Apr 2014 09:47:03 -0400<br>
> schrieb McTim <<a href="mailto:dogwallah@gmail.com" target="_blank">dogwallah@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
><br>
>> On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 8:35 AM, Norbert Bollow <<a href="mailto:nb@bollow.ch" target="_blank">nb@bollow.ch</a>> wrote:<br>
>> > McTim <<a href="mailto:dogwallah@gmail.com" target="_blank">dogwallah@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> ><br>
>> <snip><br>
>> ><br>
>> > Hence my conclusion is that the lack of any obvious track-record of<br>
>> > the kind of work outlined above is pretty damning evidence in<br>
>> > itself.<br>
>><br>
>> and being on the MAG isn't a 'track record"?<br>
>><br>
>> Seriously?<br>
><br>
> Last I checked the "M" in "MAG" stood for "Multistakeholder", so why would<br>
> being on the MAG qualify someone to represent civil society at the<br>
> "stakeholder group co-chair" level of Netmundial???<br>
><br>
> Well if Subi had been proposed/nominated by a reputable civil society body<br>
> to serve there as a "civil society representative", that'd be something<br>
> that<br>
> could be considered as part of the kind of track record that I was talking<br>
> about. But to my best knowledge that wasn't the case.<br>
><br>
> Greetings,<br>
> Norbert<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
<br>
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______________________<br>
Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya<br>
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