<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Very well said indeed, and unfortunately it did not go through earlier, at least to me. <div>Kind regards,</div><div>Stephanie Perrin<br><div><div>On 2014-04-10, at 5:45 AM, Anriette Esterhuysen wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">
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Resending this. Seems not to have gone through earlier.<br>
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Anriette<br>
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<font face="Arial">Dear Parminder and all<br>
<br>
I shared the concerns expressed in the original letter from
civil society to the Chair of the NetMundial, and feel that the
selection process of the co-chairs were simply not 'solid'
enough. Concerns have been raised by some of the other co-chairs
too. I think it was important for Indian civil society to send
this letter. There are many examples when selection of
non-governmental stakeholders is done in a pretty roughshod
personalised ways. It affects CS most of all, but in this case
selection of the business co-chair has also been questioned. It
is an example of the lack of maturity/clarity etc. in
multi-stakeholder processes which so many of you have discussed.<br>
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But I believe that the point has been made, and that the best
way to move forward is to focus on the event, on civil society's
voice at the event, and on our influence on the outcomes.<br>
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Engaging in taking this forward at this point would, I believe,
put these at risk, and possibly harm the legitimacy of the
overall process. Consider all the hard work that civil society
colleagues in Brazil have put into this event. They are working
very, very hard to make it inclusive, to get people CS to Sao
Paulo, and to make sure that the process gives everyone equal
voice.<br>
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I am not saying the process is perfect, but I think effort has
been made to keep it inclusive and transparent. This is clearly
an example of certain decisions being problematicm - this being
one of them. But I think that they have acknowledged it, and we
should move on, and use this event as the strategic opportunity
I still believe it can be. Co-chair selection should not be seen
as a primary way of recognising CS. It is pretty ceremonial. Far
more important for us to look at whether our views are reflected
in the draft outcome docs.<br>
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I also believe that continuing with this campaign will damage
civil society in other ways. It is not a constructive struggle.
Attacks of a personal nature against anyone tends to be negative
and rarely have positive outcomes.<br>
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At this point we should be looking at the bigger picture of the
substantive issues that we want to be discussed at NetMundial.
For example, I am concerned that surveillance is getting far
less focus than it deserves to. There is just a short reference
to mass surveillance in the draft outcome doc.<br>
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Going forward the important challenge for us is to find ways of
these processes become less adhoc in the future. <br>
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Anriette<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/04/2014 07:47, parminder wrote:<br>
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I wonder if civil society groups have any response to the
below...<br>
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this issue was first brought to the notice to global civil
society groups a few weeks back when almost all civil society
organisations from India wrote a letter against appointment of
Subi as co chair of NetMundial... It was most disappointing to
face a stony silence from the global networks with regard to
that representation, which is indeed disrespectful of the Indian
civil society.<br>
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Now, we have a <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/executive-of-telecom-giant-that-aided-nsa-spying-is-on-india-s-cyber-security-panel/article1-1205483.aspx">newspaper
report</a> which not only produces evidence of plagiarism
against Subi but , much more importantly, also shows clearly who
is behind her installation as NetMundial Co chair - the US big
business. And still no response.<br>
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May I request the IGC co-cos to take up this issue. And also
1Net steering committee members, and civil society members of
the executive committee and high level committee. <br>
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At least please respond to the issue.<br>
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If civil society reps wont respond to this issue, I am not sure
what they would respond to, and in which manner they then
'represent' civil society... Here there is practically the
entire Indian civil society involved in IG writing a
representation, about issues that are now further exacerbated by
the <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/executive-of-telecom-giant-that-aided-nsa-spying-is-on-india-s-cyber-security-panel/article1-1205483.aspx">news
report</a> in a top national daily of India. And we find no
visible support. <br>
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Thanks<br>
<br>
parminder <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Tuesday 08 April 2014 11:31 PM,
Rishab Bailey wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Dear All,<br>
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Further to the letter from Indian civil society groups to
the Chair of NetMundial (regarding the appointment of the
civil society co-chair for the meeting), please find
attached:<br>
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(a) the original letter from members of Indian civil society
to Prof. Virgilio Almeida,<br>
(b) follow up email from members of Indian civil society to
Prof. Virgilio Almeida;<br>
(b) response of Prof. Almeida to Indian civil society
groups.<br>
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Also do note a recent article published in a leading Indian
newspaper giving some of the context behind this: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/executive-of-telecom-giant-that-aided-nsa-spying-is-on-india-s-cyber-security-panel/article1-1205483.aspx">http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/executive-of-telecom-giant-that-aided-nsa-spying-is-on-india-s-cyber-security-panel/article1-1205483.aspx</a>
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Two of the documents referred to in the above article
(concerning plagiarism charges) are also attached to this
email.<br>
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Regards,<br>
Rishab Bailey<br>
(for the Society for Knowledge Commons, India)<br>
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