<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"></head><body><div>+1</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div style="font-size:100%">Von Samsung Galaxy Note gesendet</div></div> <br>Avri Doria <avri@acm.org> hat geschrieben:<br><br>Ian,<br><br>Thank you for this. I was afraid to jump into this discussion, but I<br>want to endorse what you have said.<br><br>avri<br><br>On 10-Apr-14 03:23, Ian Peter wrote:<br>> Hi Parminder,<br>> <br>> I did respond last time you posted information on this several weeks<br>> back, but let me respond again as this is escalating.<br>> <br>> Firstly, I agree with you and the Indian civil society groups that the<br>> appointment and the way it was undertaken was less than optimal. I also<br>> agree that far more experienced candidates in the area of internet<br>> governance were available – including from India, and including women<br>> from India.<br>> <br>> However, despite her inexperience in internet governance areas, Subi<br>> Chaturvedi appears to be quite active in civil society issues,<br>> particularly feminist issues. I am concerned that what is happening is<br>> that this is becoming an increasingly personal attack on a young Indian<br>> woman whose only “crime”, as far as I can see, is being ambitious. And<br>> there are plenty more of us who share that.<br>> <br>> The newspaper article clearly was written with the assistance of some<br>> civil society groups or members to discredit her. It is not regular<br>> “news”, and may or may not be accurate in all of its assertions.<br>> However, it has the elements of a personal attack.<br>> <br>> So I am personally uncomfortable with pursuing this any further, while<br>> recognising that it was important for Indian NGOs to make the initial<br>> contact with the Chair to express reservations. Someone has given less<br>> than optimal advice to the Chair, and we may not have the best civil<br>> society rep appointed, but I believe the most important thing now is not<br>> to pursue personal attacks and to work as best we can during NetMundial<br>> in the prevailing circumstances.<br>> <br>> Ian Peter<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> *From:* parminder <mailto:parminder@itforchange.net><br>> *Sent:* Thursday, April 10, 2014 3:47 PM<br>> *To:* governance@lists.igcaucus.org<br>> <mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org> ; mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net<br>> *Subject:* [governance] Re: [bestbits] Letters from Indian Civil Society<br>> organisations to the Chair of NetMundial regarding appointment of civil<br>> society co-chair<br>> <br>> <br>> I wonder if civil society groups have any response to the below...<br>> <br>> this issue was first brought to the notice to global civil society<br>> groups a few weeks back when almost all civil society organisations from<br>> India wrote a letter against appointment of Subi as co chair of<br>> NetMundial... It was most disappointing to face a stony silence from the<br>> global networks with regard to that representation, which is indeed<br>> disrespectful of the Indian civil society.<br>> <br>> Now, we have a newspaper report<br>> <http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/executive-of-telecom-giant-that-aided-nsa-spying-is-on-india-s-cyber-security-panel/article1-1205483.aspx><br>> which not only produces evidence of plagiarism against Subi but , much<br>> more importantly, also shows clearly who is behind her installation as<br>> NetMundial Co chair - the US big business. And still no response.<br>> <br>> May I request the IGC co-cos to take up this issue. And also 1Net<br>> steering committee members, and civil society members of the executive<br>> committee and high level committee.<br>> <br>> At least please respond to the issue.<br>> <br>> If civil society reps wont respond to this issue, I am not sure what<br>> they would respond to, and in which manner they then 'represent' civil<br>> society... Here there is practically the entire Indian civil society<br>> involved in IG writing a representation, about issues that are now<br>> further exacerbated by the news report<br>> <http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/executive-of-telecom-giant-that-aided-nsa-spying-is-on-india-s-cyber-security-panel/article1-1205483.aspx><br>> in a top national daily of India. And we find no visible support.<br>> <br>> Thanks<br>> <br>> parminder<br>> <br>> On Tuesday 08 April 2014 11:31 PM, Rishab Bailey wrote:<br>>> Dear All,<br>>><br>>> Further to the letter from Indian civil society groups to the Chair of<br>>> NetMundial (regarding the appointment of the civil society co-chair<br>>> for the meeting), please find attached:<br>>><br>>> (a) the original letter from members of Indian civil society to Prof.<br>>> Virgilio Almeida,<br>>> (b) follow up email from members of Indian civil society to Prof.<br>>> Virgilio Almeida;<br>>> (b) response of Prof. Almeida to Indian civil society groups.<br>>><br>>> Also do note a recent article published in a leading Indian newspaper<br>>> giving some of the context behind this: <br>>> http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/executive-of-telecom-giant-that-aided-nsa-spying-is-on-india-s-cyber-security-panel/article1-1205483.aspx<br>>><br>>><br>>> Two of the documents referred to in the above article (concerning<br>>> plagiarism charges) are also attached to this email.<br>>><br>>> Regards,<br>>> Rishab Bailey<br>>> (for the Society for Knowledge Commons, India)<br>> <br>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>> ____________________________________________________________<br>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:<br>> governance@lists.igcaucus.org<br>> To be removed from the list, visit:<br>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing<br>> <br>> For all other list information and functions, see:<br>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance<br>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see:<br>> http://www.igcaucus.org/<br>> <br>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t<br></body>