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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Thanks Ian, that was a relief <span
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      Public policy will need to cover some kind of
      social/public/community audit processes on all proprietary
      software used by the general public / public authorities. Of
      course release code under GPL would be a better option wherever
      possible. This will apply to google search as well..<br>
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      Though, I dont see this having any chance of happening under the
      MS umbrella where deep pocket private interests can successfully
      drown out any voices for the public interest...<br>
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      warm regards,<br>
      Guru<br>
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        On 03/27/2014 01:18 AM, Ian Peter wrote:<br>
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          <div>apologies for misunderstandings Guru, I was being ironic.</div>
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                <div style="font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a
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                <div><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 27, 2014 1:11 AM</div>
                <div><b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    title="governance@lists.igcaucus.org"
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                <div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [governance] New Report:
                  Current Export Controls for Surveillance Tools are
                  Outdated and Ineffective</div>
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            <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 03/25/2014 06:03 AM, Ian
              Peter wrote:<br>
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                        face="Arial">PS Australia perhaps should be
                        added to the list of countries who should be
                        forbidden use of surveillance software after
                        using it to advance commercial offshore oil
                        deals with the poor neighbouring country of East
                        Timor (not to mention using it to tap the phone
                        of the wife of the President of Indonesia). But
                        then, I guess we had better leave privacy out of
                        any considerations on limitations of software
                        sales here...</font></span></div>
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            Dear Ian<br>
            Why do you think  we should "<span style="FONT-FAMILY: ;
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                privacy out of any considerations on limitations of
                software sales". <font face="Arial">Is this not an
                  issue for public pol<font face="Arial">icy? </font></font><br>
                <font face="Arial">regards,<br>
                  <font face="Arial">G<font face="Arial">uru</font></font><br>
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