<div dir="ltr">Hi Mawaki,<div><br></div><div>Developing statements in a world where we live in different timezones, and commitments can be challenging. I should have communicated with you just the same to ease your concerns.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Best Wishes,</div><div>Sala</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 9:53 AM, Mawaki Chango <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kichango@gmail.com" target="_blank">kichango@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi Sala,<div><br></div><div>Thanks and sorry for not holding to my word, i.e. that I was done with this. As I wasn't seeing anything happening I thought we might be giving up and wanted to submit at least the next draft, which is included in my previous message you just responded you.</div>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 9:41 PM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com" target="_blank">salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi Mawaki,<div><br></div><div>Just tidying up the statement to send it through.</div><div><br></div><div>
Sala</div></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Mawaki Chango <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kichango@gmail.com" target="_blank">kichango@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Dear All,<div><br></div><div>Here I am again. with the latest draft taking into account all the comments above. Now, I'd like to urge you: this not the end of the story and we will have all the consultation process for the formulation of the transition proposal to make submit further inputs. If you have proposed an edit that has not been included as proposed/worded, it is because there is a reason --most likely distorting the intent of the drafters. If you can't live with that and want explanation, please ask.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I for one will personally take issue with anyone asking again for a change in language in all but the last two paragraphs, unless they can show a mistake or obvious contradiction is being made or they are just improving on the English. Otherwise I'll begin to believe that some people here just don't want IGC to be able to put anything out as a result of our work :)</div>
<div><br></div><div>The title may be changed to shorten it (if you are so inclined.)</div><div><br></div><div>Para. last but one: I have reformulated after Adam's observations/questions in order to reflect more clearly its economic motivation (the intention here was not to ask for funding developing countries CS to attend meetings.) I hope it's clearer now and acceptable to you. </div>
<div><br></div><div>Last para.: I have re-worded it to reflect the initial language and intent while trying to improve on clarity. I hope that is the case. I wouldn't change it for a language that would be fuzzier than what we now have if I, with all my limitations, am not convinced the replacing language better serves the meaning intended. </div>
<div><br></div><div>Timeline</div><div><br></div><div>1) Comments to be received before tomorrow (Friday) midnight</div><div><br></div><div>2) I will issue a two-day consensus call tomorrow (Friday) midight UTC/GMT</div>
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<br></div><div>3) Sunday midnight: The statement will be made the official IGC statement as is then.</div><div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for your understanding.</div><div><br></div><div>Mawaki</div></div><div>-----------</div>
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<br></div><div>The IGC's Statement Responding to NTIA's Call to Start Transitioning IANA Functions to the Internet G<span style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:15px">lobal Multi-Stakeholder Community. </span></div>
<div><br></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(80,0,80)">On March 14, U.S.
Commerce Department’s National Telecommunications and Information
Administration (NTIA) announced its intention to end its oversight role with
the IANA functions by calling to start a process to transition the full
administration of those key Internet domain name functions to the global multi-stakeholder
community.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(80,0,80)"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(80,0,80)">The Civil Society Internet
Governance Caucus (IGC) welcomes this decision and appreciates the opportunity
for these functions and the stewardship of the Internet domain name system
(DNS) to further evolve toward a governance model that is truly global and
widely accepted. The IGC welcomes NTIA’s resolve to see all stakeholders
involved in the consultation process as well as in the subsequent arrangements
completing the transition toward a stakeholders-led administration of the DNS (also
referred to as the “privatization of the DNS” by NTIA.)</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(80,0,80)"> </span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">The IGC supports the
multi-stakeholder policy making model as an inclusive, bottom-up, consensus
driven model that enhances democracy by its inclusiveness of all people concerned
and who might be affected by the resulting policies. For the Internet, the need
to enhance meaningful engagement globally is critical for such processes to be
authentic and their results more robust in heeding the global public interest.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">We understand the
multi-stakeholder governance model as distinct from the
"inter-governmental" model, from the private sector led model, as
well as from a model that exclusively accommodates technical standards setting
groups. In the inclusive spirit of an authentic multi-stakeholder model, we
stand ready to work with all stakeholders and make sure </span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(80,0,80)">effective consideration is given to the
concerns and views of Internet users, citizens and civil society organizations
across the world.</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(80,0,80)"> </span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(80,0,80)">We support the four
principles put forward by NTIA to guide ICANN and the global Internet community
in the formulation of a transition proposal. It is critical that we continue to
protect the openness and the global availability of the Internet while
continuously improving on its </span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">security and at the same time preserving and furthering Civil
Liberties for all Internet users around the globe</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> </span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">From the standpoint of
the opportunities for economic development afforded by the Internet, the IGC
urges the international community and the global Internet community to give
particular attention to the cost structure associated with the emerging
governance framework so as to reduce economic barriers for developing nations
and their Internet stakeholders, to the extent those costs may result from
governance and policy decisions.</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> </span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Finally, the Internet
Governance Caucus expresses hope that the globalization of the IANA functions will
be further completed by carefully assessing the jurisdiction that should apply
to the institution which will result from this transition. This should be done
taking into account, and striving to balance across all stakeholders from all
regions of the world, the burden of accessing and making use of the applicable legal
apparatus. In this context, </span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">suitable and
effective accountability and transparency mechanisms will also be established
for the new global Internet governance institution. <span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(80,0,80)">The Internet
Governance Caucus</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(80,0,80)">March 24, 2014.</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"></span></p>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 10:38 AM, Sivasubramanian M <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:isolatedn@gmail.com" target="_blank">isolatedn@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,51)">Dear Adam Peake,</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 8:36 AM, Adam Peake <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ajp@glocom.ac.jp" target="_blank">ajp@glocom.ac.jp</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">"internationally neutral judicial framework" -- can this be explained please.<br>
</blockquote><div><br></div></div><div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,51)">In a later message Ian has suggested that the word 'judicial' could be dropped. If it is dropped, it is ok, I am still trying to answer your question for clarity on what I meant. </div>
<div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,51)"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,51)">The original sentence was </div><div>
<div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,51)"><br></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">
<span style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">IANA function would be managed as a truly global function, gradually with<div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,51);display:inline">
</div> an internationally neutral judicial framework</span></blockquote><br></div></div><div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,51)"></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,51)">
Could have typed it better: "IANA could be managed as a truly global function, gradually [under an environment] of an internationally neutral judicial framework." This was a non-specific suggestion, with all the necessary thinking to be done by the Community. If you ask me if such a framework exists anywhere, then my answer is "No, I don't know". Was I implying that the present environment of California jurisdiction is NOT neutral ? No, I did not. My thoughts were more about the ease of access by the Global community. I felt that the present framework is expensive and largely inaccessible by organizations and people from around the world. </div>
<div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,51)"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,51)">One more clarification: This was not a suggestion of take the IANA function to Hague :)</div>
<div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,51)"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,51)">Hope this explains the reasoning.</div>
<div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,51)"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,51)">Sivasubramanian</div>
<div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,51)"></div><br></div><div><div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Thanks,<br>
<br>
Adam<br>
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On Mar 19, 2014, at 7:50 AM, Mawaki Chango wrote:<br>
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> Thanks, Sala. The following shows the first time that change was suggested and what was being changed.<br>
><br>
><br>
> Finally, IGC is concerned that beyond phasing out NTIA’s current role, there remains the question of the jurisdiction to be applicable to the structure that will emerge from this transition. For such structure to be truly global, the Caucus feels it is important that it not be subject to one national jurisdiction but rather to an internationally recognized legal mechanism. It is in this context that appropriate accountability instruments should be carefully designed for the new governance institution.<br>
><br>
> (Ideas expressed in the above sentence could be conveyed more gently, indicating a willingness to be patient) : The Internet Governance Caucus expresses hope that the IANA function would be managed as a truly global function, gradually with an internationally neutral judicial framework and that the new governance institution would constantly evolve suitable and appropriate accountability and transparency mechanisms.<br>
><br>
> Sivasubramanian M<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 8:15 PM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro <<a href="mailto:salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com" target="_blank">salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Hi Mawaki and De,<br>
><br>
> Happy to help with wrapping this statement up and initiate the 48 hour consensus call soon.<br>
><br>
> Before we bring it to a close soon can you clarify the purpose of using the words "judicial" in the statement as there has been some query about its use.<br>
><br>
> Best Regards,<br>
> Sala<br>
><br>
> On 19 Mar 2014 01:02, "Deirdre Williams" <<a href="mailto:williams.deirdre@gmail.com" target="_blank">williams.deirdre@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Dear Friends,<br>
> I have to say a huge thank you to Mawaki, who has been nobly carrying nearly the whole load for the last few weeks. The IGC election results more or less coincided with the arrival of my grandson in London, an expected event but not by emergency caesarian with the baby spending the first few days of his life in intensive care.<br>
> I needed to extend my planned visit for an extra two weeks, but should be going home on Sunday when I will be able to catch up with the rest of my life :-)<br>
> I have been trying to write this message for the last two hours.<br>
> So can I add my voice to Mawaki's appeal - is there someone on the list with a strong interest in the current statement and some quality time to devote to it?<br>
> It has taken me 3 hours to compose this message which i am now completing one handed, my other arm being currently occupied.<br>
> Suresh wrote recently about collegiality. Now is a good moment for it. Exchanging ideas, listening to one another and moving towards understanding, exposing the extreme views so that we are at least all aware of where the differences are and can begin to negotiate them towards a common position, this is surely the most important function of this discussion.<br>
> it would also be good to see some more feedback on anriette's questions about the planning for the igf.<br>
> as soon as i have two hands to plug in the power cable - of course my battery is choosing now to run out ....<br>
> best wishes and thank you again to mawaki<br>
> deirdre<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On 18 March 2014 09:28, Mawaki Chango <<a href="mailto:kichango@gmail.com" target="_blank">kichango@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Folks,<br>
><br>
> I went to bed in the wee hours of the morning thinking this was now going to be a formality to conclude. I have planned to devote the day (and fully concentrate) on a report which is long overdue and which, if delivered, will help me put food on the table and pay the bills. On Wednesday (well, tomorrow) I am due to travel for another fieldwork and won't be much available online. So you will probably won't be hearing a lot from me in the coming two weeks or so.<br>
><br>
> Sorry, someone else will have to take over with the last wave of comments and finish this job. If Deirdre is not available either to do so, I'd suggest one of the former cocos to please step in and help with this (in any case, at least as my interim until I'm regularly back online.) Sala is convalescent and Norbert is not responding. Any volunteer?<br>
><br>
> Someone does need to constantly keep an eye on the house before you guys burn it down ;)<br>
><br>
> Thanks for your understanding.<br>
><br>
> Mawaki<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 4:23 AM, Adam Peake <<a href="mailto:ajp@glocom.ac.jp" target="_blank">ajp@glocom.ac.jp</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> On Mar 18, 2014, at 9:03 AM, Mawaki Chango wrote:<br>
><br>
> > Dear All,<br>
> > Shall we call for consensus on the following statement? Thanks. Mawaki<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > On March 14, U.S. Commerce Department’s National Telecommunications and Information Administration (NTIA) announced its intent to relinquish the oversight role it has played so far with the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) regarding key Internet domain name functions.<br>
> ><br>
><br>
> why mention ICANN? NTIA is starting a process to transition the IANA functions to the global multistakeholder community. WOuld be good to see that in the 1st paragraph.<br>
><br>
> > The Internet Governance Caucus (IGC) welcomes this decision and appreciates the opportunity for these functions and the stewardship of the Internet domain name system (DNS) to further evolve toward a governance model that is truly global and widely accepted. IGC particularly acknowledges with satisfaction the reiteration by NTIA of the necessity to involve all stakeholders in the process as well as in the subsequent arrangements completing the transition toward a stakeholders-led administration of the DNS (what NTIA has been referring to as the privatization of the DNS.)<br>
> ><br>
> > IGC supports the multi-stakeholder policy making model as an inclusive, bottom-up, consensus driven model that enhances democracy by its inclusiveness of all people from around the world who might be affected by its policy decision outcomes. We understand the multi-stakeholder governance model as distinct from the "inter-governmental" model, from the private sector led model, as well as from a model that only accommodates technical standards setting groups. In the inclusive spirit of that model, we stand ready to work with all stakeholders and make sure effective consideration is given to the concerns and views of Internet users, citizens and civil society organizations across the world.<br>
> ><br>
> > Also supportive of the four principles put forward by NTIA to guide ICANN and the global Internet community in the formulation of a transition proposal, the Caucus wishes to particularly emphasize the need for maintaining the openness and the global availability of the Internet while continuously improving on its security and at the same time preserving and furthering Civil Liberties for all Internet users around the globe.<br>
> ><br>
> > In this process, IGC urges the international community and the global Internet community to give a particular attention to the cost structure associated with the emerging governance framework so as to make effective participation affordable for developing nations and related Internet stakeholders.<br>
> ><br>
><br>
><br>
> effective participation, cost the only or main barrier?<br>
><br>
><br>
> > Finally, the Internet Governance Caucus expresses hope that the globalization of the IANA function will eventually become more complete with an internationally appropriate and neutral judicial framework, and that suitable and effective accountability and transparency mechanisms will be established for the new global Internet governance institution.<br>
><br>
><br>
> "internationally appropriate and neutral judicial framework" Judicial? And calling for an "institution"? (arrangement).<br>
><br>
> Adam<br>
><br>
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