<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>I am sure that was the intent but it would be as you say good to make things clearer, a bit. Thanks for your effort,<br><br>--srs (iPad)</div><div><br>On 16-Mar-2014, at 7:41, Mawaki Chango <<a href="mailto:kichango@gmail.com">kichango@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra">Just to clarify this bit. By "primary" as in "<span style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">While acknowledging the primary role of Internet organizations and technical standard-setting bodies," I mean that those bodies have a hands-on role regarding the management and coordination of the internet core identifiers or logical infrastructure (which the IANA functions are first concerned with, and I guess that's the reason why they are explicitly mentioned/listed in the NTIA announcement.) </span></div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><span style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_extra"><span style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">This is not in anyway to suggest that they have a preeminent role in a normative sense. It is not even a recommendation of a sort; just to say we have some understanding for why NTIA would particularly or explicitly emphasize their involvement, but we are here to emphasize the need to equally include CS/people/users-at-large, etc. You get my point, so if changes need to be made to the formulation please make suggestions taking into account the above described intent (although I must admit we may also get rid of the binary syntactic structure of that sentence altogether and only emphasize what is most important to us.)</span></div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><span style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_extra"><span style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">mc. </span><br clear="all">
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>Technical and industry - administrative and operational. With a corresponding stake in policy as well, as policy making can't be disconnected from this, rather unlike proposals and protests that are free not to take technical reality into account.<br>
<br>--srs (iPad)</div><div><div class="h5"><div><br>On 16-Mar-2014, at 6:12, "Ian Peter" <<a href="mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com" target="_blank">ian.peter@ianpeter.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite">
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<div>Just to outline some of the issues behind some of my suggested changes
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<div>1. While happy to endorse “multistakeholder” as a step forward for these
particular functions, I am not sure we want to endorse it as a one-size-fits-all
model for all aspects of internet governance. Hence my first suggested change
below. </div>
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<div>2. I wouldn’t describe the role of technical organisations as “primary” –
administrative perhaps?</div>
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<div>3. Perhaps we can word better the section as regards meaning of
multistakeholder and our concerns this could be a mask for dominance of certain
groups.</div>
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<div style="font-style:normal;font-size:small;display:inline;text-decoration:none;font-family:Calibri;font-weight:normal"><b>From:</b>
<a title="ian.peter@ianpeter.com" href="mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com" target="_blank">Ian
Peter</a> </div></div>
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<div><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, March 16, 2014 10:15 AM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="kichango@gmail.com" href="mailto:kichango@gmail.com" target="_blank">Mawaki Chango</a> ; <a title="governance@lists.igcaucus.org" href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org" target="_blank">Internet Governance</a> </div>
<div><b>Cc:</b> <a title="williams.deirdre@gmail.com" href="mailto:williams.deirdre@gmail.com" target="_blank">Deirdre Williams</a> ; <a title="bestbits@lists.bestbits.net" href="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net" target="_blank">bestbits@lists.bestbits.net</a> </div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [governance] IGC press release in response to the NTIA
announcement of March 14</div></div></div>
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<div>Hi Mawaki,good start.</div>
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<div>I think some sections are repetitive and it may be too long. So in my
thinking I have square bracketed some sections below and also have a few in line
comments and suggested alternatives.</div>
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<div style="font-style:normal;font-size:small;display:inline;text-decoration:none;font-family:Calibri;font-weight:normal"><b>From:</b>
<a title="kichango@gmail.com" href="mailto:kichango@gmail.com" target="_blank">Mawaki Chango</a>
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<div><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, March 16, 2014 8:10 AM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="governance@lists.igcaucus.org" href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org" target="_blank">Internet Governance</a> </div>
<div><b>Cc:</b> <a title="williams.deirdre@gmail.com" href="mailto:williams.deirdre@gmail.com" target="_blank">Deirdre Williams</a> ; <a title="bestbits@lists.bestbits.net" href="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net" target="_blank">mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net</a>
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<div><b>Subject:</b> [governance] IGC press release in response to the NTIA
announcement of March 14</div></div></div>
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<div style="font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(80,0,80)">Dear
All,</div>
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<div style="font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(80,0,80)">Please
find a draft of the above subject for your consideration and possible revisions.
This is just a first crack attempted considering the speed of the events. I'm
cc'ing BB as a peer organization with same concerns.</div>
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<div style="font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(80,0,80)">We
would appreciate your inputs by Monday noon, UTC.</div>
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<div style="font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(80,0,80)">IGC
Draft Press Release</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On March 14, U.S. Commerce Department’s National
Telecommunications and Information Administration (NTIA) announced its intent to
relinquish the oversight role it has played so far with the Internet Corporation
for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) regarding key Internet domain name
functions. [As the announcement points out, this marks the final phase of
the transition intended from the inception of ICANN toward the privatization of
the domain name system (DNS) and its stewardship]. </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The Internet Governance Caucus (IGC) welcomes this decision
and appreciates the opportunity to further evolve toward an equitable
multistakeholder policymaking model for [ 1. the governance of the Internet] [IP
–2. these functions]. In that regard, IGC pays [a] particular attention to
the reiteration by NTIA of the necessity to involve all stakeholders in the
process as well as in the desired outcome for fully completing the above
transition. [If deemed relevant by members and subject to what the following
actually entails: “Meet the needs and expectation of the global customers and
partners of the IANA services”] We also support the four principles put forward
by NTIA to guide ICANN and the global Internet community in the formulation of a
proposal to finalize this transition]. </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Calibri">IP I would leave last
bracketed section out</font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">While acknowledging the [primary] role of Internet
organizations and technical standard-setting bodies, IGC wishes to call
attention to the utmost importance of giving due consideration to the concerns
and views of non-technical and non-commercial stakeholders in Internet policies.
Indeed IGC supports the multistakeholder policymaking model to the extent that
it does not contradict the ideals of democracy, including due consideration to
the rights of minorities (in the context of Internet policy). It will be a
constant challenge to make sure the term ‘multistakeholder’ is not reduced to
mean ‘anti-all-governments-of-the-world’ [ IP or“private sector led”] but is
rather open to embrace a ‘pro-all-peoples-of-the-world’ meaning. </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Furthermore, a great deal of care should be given to
designing the appropriate accountability mechanisms that fit a truly
global governance institution – with a constituency and a customer base that
actually is global.[ Related to that and more broadly adequate responses must be
found to the concern that while achieving effective accountability such
institution (to emerge from this transition) should not be subject to any one
national jurisdiction at the exclusion of others. It must be equally available
and accessible to all Internet stakeholders]. </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">[Since ICANN is one of the co-conveners of the upcoming
NETMundial, the Global Meeting on the Future of Internet Governance<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"> (</span><a href="http://www.netmundial.br" target="_blank">www.netmundial.br</a>) to be held in Brazil this
April, we advise that it includes in its consultation process for the transition
proposal the propositions made in submissions, proceedings and outcomes of that
meeting as regards the phasing out of the current role played by NTIA in the
coordination of the Internet’s domain name system]. </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The Internet Governance Caucus</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">March xx,
2014.</p></div></span></span></span></div></div></span></span></span></div></span></div></div></div>
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