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<p><no discrimination based on economic resources cannot be equated to saying no to market pricing, certainly not at the level of individual users></p>
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<p>in our CS (independant) Declaration at Geneva and Tunis WSIS Summitts I remebrer we used the words "affordable" or "affordability" for qualifying (among other critria) access for all citizens to the ICT and Internet media. This would eliminate the questionable quoted vocabulary.</p>
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<div dir="ltr">I am going to have to assume that nobody considers differentials in market pricing a discriminatory practice. Therefore, saying no discrimination based on economic resources cannot be equated to saying no to market pricing, certainly not at the level of individual users in the same market setting (although political economy level measures are always possible in order to reduce imbalances in certain conditions.)
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<div>Furthermore, this may also be read as a call on governments and incumbent telcos to make every possible effort to prevent or limit the extent to which "economic resources" could be used as basis for discriminatory decisions on access and availability of contents.</div>
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<div>It is 11:25 PM and I am on my way to posting the IGC statement to the NETMundial site.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:11 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian <span><<a href="mailto:suresh@hserus.net" target="_blank">suresh@hserus.net</a>></span> wrote:<br />>
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<div>Quite often this is not an internet governance question but a telecom competition policy question. </div>
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<div>If a country's government has an enlightened attitude in freeing up telecom from being a government monopoly, providing for fair competition such as unbundling, sharing the last mile (whether cell towers or copper / fiber), providing access to government owned rights of way (such as laying fiber along railway track beds, and in city utility tunnels / lamp posts) then you will automatically get to see cheaper Internet access.<br />> <br />> There is little or nothing that we are going to achieve by putting this on the table at netmundial, I am afraid. A laudable goal and all that, but we have to stay focused.</div>
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<div style="font-family: arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; color: #500050;">I suspect the proponent means to refer to the level of economic development of a region or a group pf people, or something along those lines. Is there a formulation that would make it more acceptable to you as a "pragmatic aspiration"?</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Roland Perry <span><<a href="mailto:roland@internetpolicyagency.com" target="_blank">roland@internetpolicyagency.com</a>></span> wrote:<br />>
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