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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Wednesday 05 March 2014 05:09 PM,
Jeremy Malcolm wrote:<br>
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On 5 Mar 2014, at 7:21 pm, parminder <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">And of course, the proposed
view to be submitted on 1Net's behalf has this all important
principle, "Decisions made with respect to Internet
governance should only be made by bodies that allow free and
equitable access to all stakeholders at all points in the
decision-making process." Well of course. Two hoots to
democracy!<br>
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Now I shall come to the point, of my comments on the
proposed submission to NetMundial submitted by Jeremy.<br>
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I of course support and commend both APC Principles and IRP
Principles - which seem the main burden of the
submission.... BUT...<br>
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</b></i><i><b>Can someone explain me the meaning of
"equitable multistakeholder participation"</b></i><span
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different from what is meant in the above statement from
1Net's survey. If so, how.... More precisely, are you
seeking that all stakeholders, including business reps, have
equal part and role (as gov reps) in making decisions about
public policies. Please address this point specifically.<span
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<div>Yes, you picked up on a key point. There was a discussion
of this on the pad where the text was workshopped, which you
can read for yourself: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://pad.riseup.net/p/IG_principles">https://pad.riseup.net/p/IG_principles</a>.
At various times it was "parity" and "power sharing" before
it became "equitable participation", which is somewhat
flexible, to accommodate the different viewpoints that we all
have about how equal the stakeholder roles should be.</div>
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I dont greatly like flexibility between democracy and non-democracy.
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So, request a clear response - do you mean <i><b>parity</b></i> in
<i><b>decision making</b></i> about <i><b>public policies </b></i>between
gov and non gov actors.... And this is not a petty point... Half of
the time of the WGEC got taken on this kind of discussion. This is
the single most important point today, if we can clarify nd possibly
agree on this point - rest is not too difficult... Lets accept what
is the key point, and not skirt it...<br>
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BTW, the German government has the following to say in its
submission to NetMundial<br>
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"Democratically elected governments, as the representative of the
people, possess public authority including internet-related public
policy issues and are supposed to be the main source for legitimacy
and democratic legitimation. Hence they have to respect and protect
human rights, ensure that the rule of law is respected and that
relevant national legislation complies with their obligations under
international law. Moreover, they need to ensure that the
appropriate basic conditions both in terms of cyber-security and
technical provisions are in place. Civil society serves, and should
continue to do so, as a facilitator and notably as a source of
empowerment and credibility, especially at community level. The
private sector and particularly the technical community
significantly influence and encourage the development, distribution
and accessibility of the internet, and should continue to do so. In
order to fully live up to the potentials for economic growth,
innovation, freedom of expression, access to information and ideas
and democratic participation in a knowledge society, all
stakeholders involved need to work together."<br>
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Do you for instance agree to the above formulation, or NOT...<br>
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<div>Jeremy Malcolm PhD LLB (Hons) B Com</div>
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