<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>That criticism would actually apply if the constituents of 1net weren't actually doing highly productive and operationally relevant work in the first place.</div><div><br></div><div>Marginalized constituencies are sometimes marginalized because of a lack of internal capacity within their organizations to actually make meaningful contributions. While I agree that their needs must be taken into account and represented, it does not automatically follow that their representatives always have the required skills or background to claim representation as a matter of entitlement.</div><div><br></div><div>And in other cases, people who claim entitlement solely as a matter of political gain for themselves or their organizations should definitely be denied any sort of representation.</div><div><br></div><div>Progressive versus any other (so, "regressive?") belief system does not come into this picture at all. Policy discussions are meant to be collegial and cooperative. Political situations are about achieving control. Diametrically opposed objectives.<br><br>--srs (iPad)</div><div><br>On 13-Jan-2014, at 16:51, parminder <<a href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net">parminder@itforchange.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<div>For over twenty years I've been "channel operator" on various
chat channels. I always found my role to be akin to that of a
janitor, someone who serves a community without demanding much
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<div>There was always one policy I followed when it came to
selecting someone to become fellow operator: "s/he who asks for
it will never get it." <br>
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On this criterion, most of all, 1Net should have been denied the
gatekeeping role to Brazilian meeting that has been bestowed to it.
It not only consistently asked for this role but virtually snatched
it out of what appears to be unwilling hands. <br>
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1Net first made a unilateral announcement that it had this role
(Adiel's email to 1Net list on Nov 18) which is strange since it is
the role giver and not the role taker who usually makes such an
announcement, and evidently the Brazilian organising committee had
said nothing of this kind. <br>
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That the Brazilian organising committee had given 1Net no such role
was evident from the Nov 26th formal announcement of the Brazil
meeting. This fact was confirmed by an email to these lists on Nov
27 by Carlos, who attended the organising committee meeting. Carlos
was responding to direct question by Anriette who asked and I quote<br>
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I dont know how this situation got fully reversed by end Dec when
1Net suddenly got thrusted into the gatekeeping role. One can only
speculate that a lot of arm twisting and political deal making would
have gone in there. <br>
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But surely, you can hardly say that 1Net was the good boy who never
asked for the role, as a reward for which it was given that role...<br>
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<div>Why? Simply because those who want the spot don't want it for
the work and service to others, but because it would make them
appear "more powerful", "more respectful", "more important".
Times and again when the policy was not followed, experience has
shown and reconfirmed that deviating from it leads to bad
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Would you now denounce 1Net on this criterion.<br>
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Or does your advice only extend to those who may represent
marginalised groups, with highly under resourced organisational
capacities , and not to the powerful and highly well organised
ones..<br>
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<div>Instead, those whom I asked to become fellow 'ops' were those
who worked silently and diligently to create harmony, to develop
sensical common positions, those who had service to the
community at their heart and who would refuse the offer at first
for fear of not being able to fulfill the position of trust to
the best interest of their community. </div>
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<div>Perhaps this example could inform also those in and around
this community in setting and in accepting the selection
criteria and nomination processes. </div>
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<div>Of course, you are perfectly free to completely ignore this
suggestion or to start a "shitstorm" over this. ;-)</div>
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