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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Friday 10 January 2014 09:51 PM,
      Anja Kovacs wrote:<br>
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            <div>Dear all,<br>
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            Following up on my message below, in the end, the LOC
            decided that today's meeting would only be open to the LOC.
            According to communication by Hartmut, this was to avoid
            unbalanced representation, as the technical community has
            not yet appointed its representatives (see the message below
            my email).<br>
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          In that sense, my request to Adiel to facilitate the
          participation of the liaisons in the meeting became
          irrelevant. </div>
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    I dont see why Adiel is being appealed to for facilitating civil
    society participation in LOG meeting when a decision was taken at
    Bali that we wont use 1Net as our conduit to LOG.... I am happy
    Adiel responded as did below... <br>
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        <div>However, before the message that the meeting would now be
          an LOC-only one came, Adiel did nevertheless respond to that
          request. As we (ie the 4 networks that appointed the liaisons)
          have insisted on dealing directly with the LOC, </div>
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    Yes, we did.. So wrong to approach 1Net coordinator to facilitate
    our participation when we expressly decided against it..<br>
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        <div>he encouraged us to take up this issue, too, directly with
          the LOC. He also noted, "At this point I can not allow myself
          to talk FOR CS only wile interacting with the LOC". This needs
          to be read in the light of his efforts to make possible the
          participation of the 1net steering group members in that
          meeting,</div>
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    Now this is interesting... I know that all stakeholders will
    participate in organising committees as nominated through their
    respective processes... What is this about 1Net participating in LOG
    meeting. what is the basis for that... <br>
    <br>
    parminder <br>
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        <div> something that was of importance for all those who do feel
          comfortable with 1net being the conduit for their
          participation.<br>
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        Best regards,<br>
        Anja<br>
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            <div>Begin forwarded message:</div>
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            <blockquote type="cite"><span
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                All,</span><br
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              <span
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                of confusion and/or misunderstandings if the 1Net
                Steering Committee already is in place, and<span> </span></span><br
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              <span
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                avoid unbalanced participation (only one or two
                communities), we decided that the meeting tomorrow<span> </span></span><br
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              <span
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                January 10th) will be only<span> </span></span><u
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                  meeting of the Local Organizing Working Group (Members
                  of<span> </span><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="http://cgi.br/" target="_blank">CGI.br</a>)</b></u><span
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                expect that all BR Meeting Committees will be in place
                during next week and then we can start to work with<span> </span></span><br
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                speed. </span><br
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                the best</span><br
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          <div class="gmail_quote">On 9 January 2014 08:31, Anja Kovacs
            <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:anja@internetdemocracy.in" target="_blank">anja@internetdemocracy.in</a>></span>
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              <p>Dear all,</p>
              <p>Just to let you know, following up on Adam's email,
                that as a member of the 1net SC, I have requested Adiel
                to facilitate the participation in person of both Joana
                and Laura in the meeting on 10 Jan. Joana and Laura are
                the liaisons who had indicated they could make it in
                person.</p>
              <p>Will let you know as soon as there is a response. </p>
              <p>Best,<br>
                Anja</p>
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                  <div class="gmail_quote">On Jan 9, 2014 1:06 AM,
                    "Jean-Christophe NOTHIAS I The Global Journal" <<a
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                            <div>Le 8 janv. 2014 à 20:33, Ian Peter a
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                                    <div>Hi Jean- Christophe,</div>
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                                    <div>One correction to your
                                      excellent summary</div>
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                                    <div><b><font face="Times New Roman">Who
                                          are the potential known other
                                          members of the Brazilian
                                          Internet Steering Committee
                                          (BI SC)</font></b></div>
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                                            size="3">The 5 names you
                                            mention are  CS reps on the
                                            1net Steering Committee – a
                                            different entity altogether.
                                            (Rafik Dammak; Anriette
                                            Esterhuysen; Anja Kovacs;
                                            Vladimir Radunovik; Joana
                                            Varon )</font></div>
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                                        <div><font face="Calibri"
                                            size="3">The 1net steering
                                            committee mailing list I
                                            think was set up about 2
                                            days ago with the reps
                                            chosen by various
                                            constituencies but as the
                                            technical community reps
                                            have not been chosen yet is
                                            not fully populated.  It has
                                            a longer term brief than the
                                            Brazil meeting.</font></div>
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                                            size="3">Ian Peter</font></div>
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                                          <div><b>From:</b> <a
                                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              title="jc.nothias@theglobaljournal.net"
href="mailto:jc.nothias@theglobaljournal.net" target="_blank">Jean-Christophe
                                              NOTHIAS I The Global
                                              Journal</a> </div>
                                          <div><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday,
                                            January 08, 2014 9:08 PM</div>
                                          <div><b>To:</b> <a
                                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              title="ajp@glocom.ac.jp"
                                              href="mailto:ajp@glocom.ac.jp"
                                              target="_blank">Adam Peake</a>
                                            ; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              title="brmeeting@cgi.br"
                                              href="mailto:brmeeting@cgi.br"
                                              target="_blank">brmeeting@cgi.br</a>
                                          </div>
                                          <div><b>Cc:</b> <a
                                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              title="bestbits@lists.bestbits.net"
href="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net" target="_blank">mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net</a>
                                            ; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
title="governance@lists.igcaucus.org"
                                              href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org"
                                              target="_blank">Civil
                                              Society Internet
                                              Governance Caucus - IGC</a>
                                            ; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
title="igfmaglist-owner@intgovforum.org"
                                              href="mailto:igfmaglist-owner@intgovforum.org"
                                              target="_blank">igfmaglist-owner@intgovforum.org</a>
                                          </div>
                                          <div><b>Subject:</b> Re:
                                            [bestbits] emails to Adiel</div>
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                                      <div>Behind mis-communication and
                                        confusion, there might be some
                                        good reasons for the mess (not
                                        always but...). </div>
                                      <div> </div>
                                      <div>A good story is beginning to
                                        take shape, and as far as we can
                                        understand it now, its title
                                        might be:</div>
                                      <div><b>ICANN invites ICANN to
                                          BRAZIL to debate IG</b></div>
                                      <div><b><br>
                                        </b></div>
                                      <div><b>So now just trying to get
                                          things rights (and calling for
                                          editing my information to the
                                          listings)</b></div>
                                      <div> </div>
                                      <div>When visiting the new website
                                        (online since Jan7, 2014) set
                                        for the purpose of the meeting (<a
                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          href="http://brmeeting.br/"
                                          target="_blank">brmeeting.br</a>),
                                        only minor informations are
                                        available. Quite a surprise for
                                        such an ambitious conference and
                                        serious issue. In the section
                                        'About' we find a map for the
                                        location of the venue, and its
                                        address. In the 'Announcements'
                                        section, there is one 1 release
                                        dated Nov 26, 2013, and a link
                                        to ICANN announcement dated Oct
                                        7, 2013. In the section
                                        'Committees' we find 4
                                        committees described with 3
                                        phrases. The last section
                                        'Accommodations' presents the 3
                                        hotels and their contact info.
                                        In the 'Contact' section, you
                                        click to pop up an email.</div>
                                      <div> </div>
                                      <div>This is rather minimalist, to
                                        say the least, for a new
                                        website. Is Brazil lacking some
                                        funds and means to get this
                                        website to the appropriate level
                                        of concern?</div>
                                      <div> </div>
                                      <div>From diverse emails, I end up
                                        with the following information.</div>
                                      <div> </div>
                                      <div><b>Who are the Organizers?</b></div>
                                      <div>Officially, we have BRAZIL
                                        and ICANN with the support of
                                        the other I* (see Montevideo
                                        Statement mention) meaning ISOC,
                                        IETF, RIRs...</div>
                                      <div> </div>
                                      <div><b>Who is chairing the
                                          Brazilian Multistakeholder
                                          Conference on Internet
                                          Conference?</b></div>
                                      <div>One delegate from the
                                        Brazilian Government, one from
                                        ICANN and 2 additional persons
                                        chosen by BRAZIL and ICANN**.
                                        Names??</div>
                                      <div> </div>
                                      <div><b>Who are the
                                          Representatives of the
                                          Organizers?</b></div>
                                      <div>Officially the one entity
                                        which role is to organize the
                                        meeting is a "<i>Brazilian
                                          Internet Steering Committee</i>".
                                        This committee is not per say
                                        Brazilian as it embeds ICANN
                                        representatives and Brazilian
                                        representatives. It should be a
                                        <i>US-BRAZILIAN Internet
                                          Steering Committee</i>, or an
                                        <i>ICANN and BRAZIL Internet
                                          Steering Committee</i>. </div>
                                      <div> </div>
                                      <div>For Brazil the head
                                        representative is Virgilio F.
                                        Almeda. Officially he is the
                                        coordinator. The name of the
                                        ICANN delegate is not available
                                        on the meeting's website. Almeda
                                        is also the coordinator of a
                                        secretariat. It seems like this
                                        secretariat will handle the
                                        organization of the meeting AND
                                        the
                                        'coordination/management/inter-communication
                                        within the committees (see
                                        below). We have no specific
                                        information about the "shared
                                        secretariat".</div>
                                      <div> </div>
                                      <div><b>Who are the
                                          Representatives for all IG
                                          participants/specialists/priesthood/stakeholders
                                          (remember the multistakeholder
                                          story)?</b></div>
                                      <div>After its first meeting the
                                        Brazilian Internet Steering
                                        Committee BI SC (unclear who
                                        took the decision within the BI
                                        SC) has expressed desire for a
                                        "filter" with the many
                                        stakeholders part of the IG
                                        debate (Too much work, too
                                        little time).  Something quite
                                        unexpected for two reasons.
                                        Setting a multistakeholder
                                        conference with a single filter
                                        sounds odd, specially when this
                                        filter has no existence, no
                                        constituencies, no mandate, no
                                        membership, no board, no proper
                                        information flow. What we know
                                        about this filter (1net) is that
                                        it was set by ICANN, and the
                                        other I* (mostly constituents of
                                        the current status quo and its
                                        asymmetric US role over the
                                        Internet). And it was presented,
                                        if not endorsed (no reason for
                                        ICANN to ask the IGF to endorse
                                        a private initiative) during the
                                        last IGF Bali meeting.</div>
                                      <div>Everyone familiar with the IG
                                        debate would have bet that an
                                        IGF delegation would have been
                                        the best "filter" to prepare the
                                        multistakeholder conference. Or
                                        a direct and open system of call
                                        for participation.</div>
                                      <div> </div>
                                      <div>*let's be positive, as a
                                        remote participation will be
                                        allowed, organizers will be able
                                        to share a feeling of
                                        participation. </div>
                                      <div> </div>
                                      <div><b>Who are the other
                                          governments participating?</b></div>
                                      <div>No idea so far, but Brazilian
                                        ambition on this seems to be at
                                        a low 12-government guest cards.
                                        I would bet that the US will not
                                        participate as most of the US
                                        delegation present at WCIT 2012
                                        will be there anyway through the
                                        I*.</div>
                                      <div> </div>
                                      <div><b>Who are the members of the
                                          Brazilian Internet Steering
                                          Committee (BI SC)?</b></div>
                                      <div>- Virgilio Almeda for the
                                        Brazilian government. </div>
                                      <div>- Hartmut Richard Glaser for
                                        LOG, <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          href="http://CGI.br/"
                                          target="_blank">CGI.br</a> </div>
                                      <div>- Adiel Akplogan on behalf of
                                        the I* (himself at AFRINIC )
                                        under the umbrella of the 1net
                                        UFO (© ICANN). </div>
                                      <div>- 3 civil society
                                        stakeholders : Carolina Rossini
                                        (New America Foundation), Joana
                                        Varon Ferraz (Fundação Getulio
                                        Vargas)  and Laura (Joana and
                                        Laura are also part of the 1net
                                        steering committee or 1net
                                        steercom)</div>
                                      <div>- ICANN representatives?</div>
                                      <div>- Others?</div>
                                      <div>...</div>
                                      <div>(sorry but I do not have the
                                        full list of the participants of
                                        the first BI SC, and no official
                                        information is available online
                                        on the brmeeting website)</div>
                                      <div> </div>
                                      <div><b>Who are the potential
                                          known other members of the
                                          Brazilian Internet Steering
                                          Committee (BI SC)</b></div>
                                      <div>- Adiel Akplogan for 1net has
                                        asked for members of the 1net
                                        steering committee to be
                                        included in the Brazilian
                                        Internet Steering Committee.
                                        Btw, Carolina Rossini asked for
                                        the names of the  1net steercom
                                        reps to Adiel but we haven't
                                        seen his answer yet.</div>
                                      <div>- The IG listings (bestbits
                                        IG) have suggested 5 names to
                                        participate in the Brazilian
                                        Internet Steering Committee
                                        (Rafik Dammak; Anriette
                                        Esterhuysen; Anja Kovacs;
                                        Vladimir Radunovik; Joana Varon
                                        (she is already in through
                                        1net). With a 'back-up': Marilia
                                        Maciel. So far no formal
                                        feedback from them after the
                                        first BI SC meeting (maybe I
                                        have missed something here)</div>
                                      <div>- 4 liaisons to the BI SC are
                                        requested on behalf of another
                                        civil society network (see
                                        Parminder et al letter sent in
                                        2013)</div>
                                      <div>* I am not sure of what is
                                        the difference between a liaison
                                        and a member at the BI SC.</div>
                                      <div> </div>
                                      <div><b>Who are the members of the
                                          4 stakeholder committees
                                          supposed to prepare the event
                                          under the BI SC overview?</b></div>
                                      <div>This should be announced by
                                        mi January. Who is appointing
                                        them? Not quite clear but it
                                        seems to be that the BISC will
                                        finalize the names in agreement
                                        with the organizers (BRAZIL and
                                        ICANN). </div>
                                      <div>The IG listings have been
                                        collecting names and an ad hoc
                                        selection committee is now
                                        reviewing the final selection.
                                        The final names selected will be
                                        sent to the BI SC for approval.
                                      </div>
                                      <div>For other nominations, the
                                        BICS in agreement with the
                                        organizers (BRAZIL and ICANN)
                                        should decide and announce the
                                        names.</div>
                                      <div>We don not know about other
                                        names.</div>
                                      <div> </div>
                                      <div> </div>
                                      <div><b>Who are the members of the
                                          informal meetings such as the
                                          Jan 10 meeting?</b></div>
                                      <div>LOG (Hartmut et al) and a
                                        1net representative designated
                                        by 1net steering committee.
                                        Brazilian government
                                        representative(s). No other
                                        governments representatives are
                                        expected.</div>
                                      <div>The agenda of the meeting is
                                        not published. We have been told
                                        that the meeting will discuss
                                        logistic, including the remote
                                        participation issue for the
                                        event.</div>
                                      <div>Joana (member of the 1net SC,
                                        and BI SC) asked Hartmut (BI SC)
                                        to include other members of the
                                        1net SC (Jan 7) in this meeting</div>
                                      <div>Carolina  (member of the BI
                                        SC) asked Hartmut (BI SC) to
                                        include the 3 civil society
                                        stakeholders members of the BI
                                        SC be invited to the Jan 7
                                        meeting (Joana, Laura and
                                        Carolina)</div>
                                      <div> </div>
                                      <div>Of course, all of that should
                                        come with the usual criteria of
                                        goodwill</div>
                                      <div>** Participants are requested
                                        to be able to work together and
                                        in all circumstances be able to
                                        represent the diversity of views</div>
                                      <div>** Participants should talk
                                        on an equal footing with other
                                        participants</div>
                                      <div>* As schedule is tight,
                                        participants should be happy
                                        with all the mismatches, odd
                                        decisions, and possible
                                        troubleshooting. And therefore
                                        not too demanding.</div>
                                      <div> </div>
                                      <div>The original criteria listing
                                        for selecting participants to
                                        the 4 committees is here (source
                                        Ian Peter - Dec 22, 2013)</div>
                                      <div>
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style="font-size:7pt">      </font></font></span></span></span><span><font
                                              face="Cambria">Able to
                                              represent civil society as
                                              a whole, not just your
                                              individual civil society
                                              organisation(s)</font></span></div>
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                                              face="Cambria">Able to
                                              work collegiately with
                                              other stakeholder groups
                                              in a multistakeholder
                                              setting</font></span></div>
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                                              face="Cambria">Able to
                                              consult widely with civil
                                              society groups and to
                                              report back as the process
                                              progresses</font></span></div>
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                                              face="Cambria">Ability to
                                              represent civil society at
                                              a senior level in these
                                              discussions</font></span></div>
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                                              face="Cambria">Broad
                                              knowledge of internet
                                              governance issues and the
                                              range of civil society
                                              perspectives on these
                                              issues</font></span></div>
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                                              face="Cambria">Capacity to
                                              participate assertively
                                              and creatively</font></span></div>
                                      </div>
                                      <div> </div>
                                      <div><span
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                                                  that all errors,
                                                  mistakes, complement
                                                  of information, or new
                                                  information be pushed
                                                  forward. I hope this
                                                  contribute to
                                                  establish clarity
                                                  about the process and
                                                  help overall
                                                  understanding.</span></span></span></span></span></div>
                                      <div> </div>
                                      <div>Too bad Hartmut didn't answer
                                        my previous questions. Thanks
                                        for your time on this.</div>
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                                      <div>
                                        <div>Le 8 janv. 2014 à 07:54,
                                          Adam Peake a écrit :</div>
                                        <br>
                                        <blockquote type="cite">
                                          <div><br>
                                            On Jan 8, 2014, at 2:46 PM,
                                            parminder wrote:<br>
                                            <br>
                                            <blockquote type="cite"><br>
                                            </blockquote>
                                            <blockquote type="cite">On
                                              Tuesday 07 January 2014
                                              10:26 PM, Carolina Rossini
                                              wrote:<br>
                                            </blockquote>
                                            <blockquote type="cite">
                                              <blockquote type="cite">Dear
                                                folks,<br>
                                              </blockquote>
                                            </blockquote>
                                            <blockquote type="cite">
                                              <blockquote type="cite"><br>
                                              </blockquote>
                                            </blockquote>
                                            <blockquote type="cite">
                                              <blockquote type="cite">Adiel
                                                will be the person in
                                                the meeting in Brazil on
                                                January 10th. Folks in
                                                Brazil want this "1Net"
                                                fictional entity to
                                                filter ALL conversations
                                                with CGI.<br>
                                              </blockquote>
                                            </blockquote>
                                            <blockquote type="cite"><br>
                                            </blockquote>
                                            <blockquote type="cite">Carolina<br>
                                            </blockquote>
                                            <blockquote type="cite"><br>
                                            </blockquote>
                                            <blockquote type="cite">Your
                                              description of 1Net and
                                              its role as seen by LOG is
                                              interesting. The point is;
                                              does civil society agree
                                              to this arrangement - of
                                              1Net filtering all
                                              conversations with CGI...
                                              or have we simply become a
                                              pushover (willing?) for
                                              the powerful to make deals
                                              among themselves. That
                                              would be such a shame, and
                                              I have begun to get this
                                              feeling that we are fast
                                              getting there if not
                                              already there.<br>
                                            </blockquote>
                                            <blockquote type="cite"><br>
                                            </blockquote>
                                            <br>
                                            Seems like a lot of
                                            mis-communication all round.<br>
                                            <br>
                                            Adiel will not be at the
                                            meeting on Jan 10th.  Email
                                            from the 1Net discuss list:<br>
                                            <br>
                                            <br>
                                            <blockquote type="cite"><br>
                                            </blockquote>
                                            <blockquote type="cite">On
                                              Jan 8, 2014, at 3:17 AM,
                                              Adiel Akplogan wrote:<br>
                                            </blockquote>
                                            <blockquote type="cite"><br>
                                            </blockquote>
                                            <blockquote type="cite">
                                              <blockquote type="cite">I
                                                won't be in Brazil. I
                                                have already asked if
                                                the /1net steercom reps
                                                can attend the meeting
                                                at least as observer,
                                                awaiting for answer from
                                                the LOC.<br>
                                              </blockquote>
                                            </blockquote>
                                            <blockquote type="cite">
                                              <blockquote type="cite"><br>
                                              </blockquote>
                                            </blockquote>
                                            <blockquote type="cite">
                                              <blockquote type="cite">-
                                                a.<br>
                                              </blockquote>
                                            </blockquote>
                                            <br>
                                            <br>
                                            <br>
                                            Let's wait and see how the
                                            local organizers respond to
                                            his request to have steering
                                            committee members attend. I
                                            am beginning to loose track
                                            of committee/nominations,
                                            etc., but believe we have
                                            selected five steering
                                            committee members:<br>
                                            <br>
                                            Rafik Dammak<br>
                                            Anriette Esterhuysen<br>
                                            Anja Kovacs <br>
                                            Vladimir Radunovik<br>
                                            Joana Varon<br>
                                            <br>
                                            Marilia Maciel as back-up. <br>
                                            <br>
                                            Can't imagine there's anyway
                                            to have all five attend in
                                            person :-)  But there are
                                            ways to have input.
                                            Hopefully the committee at
                                            least has a list.  And if
                                            some of the other Brazil CS
                                            liaisons are available at
                                            such short notice, suggest
                                            we ask they + Marilia be
                                            invited to attend as
                                            proxies.  Perhaps one of the
                                            5 steering committee members
                                            could make this request?<br>
                                            <br>
                                            We now have about 11 weeks
                                            until the end of March when
                                            meeting needs to be in near
                                            final shape.  Time will
                                            always mess up our hopes for
                                            good process, let's work
                                            with what we have... and
                                            thanks to those volunteering
                                            to help.<br>
                                            <br>
                                            Adam<br>
                                            <br>
                                            <br>
                                            <br>
                                            <blockquote type="cite">Do
                                              we want to write to LOG/
                                              CGI that this arrangement
                                              is not acceptable to us? I
                                              request that list members
                                              give their response to
                                              this. <br>
                                            </blockquote>
                                            <blockquote type="cite"><br>
                                            </blockquote>
                                            <blockquote type="cite">That
                                              reminds me: at Bali, this
                                              issue was much discussed
                                              and four prominent civil
                                              society groups (IGC, BB,
                                              APC and IRP) together
                                              agreed that, no this
                                              arrangement is not
                                              acceptable to us (Please
                                              let me know if this is
                                              *not* what people thing
                                              got agreed) and decided to
                                              send a letter to
                                              Brazilians to the effect,
                                              and also putting forward 4
                                              CS Liaisons, who were
                                              requested to be invited to
                                              all meetings related to
                                              organising the Brazil
                                              meeting. (Quite
                                              inexplicably though the
                                              drafting and sending of
                                              the letter got highly
                                              delayed even after this
                                              decision.)<br>
                                            </blockquote>
                                            <blockquote type="cite"><br>
                                            </blockquote>
                                            <blockquote type="cite">Caroline,
                                              you, and Joana and Laura
                                              were 3 liaisons . Why did
                                              you not keep us posted
                                              about what was happening
                                              in Brazil... Did you
                                              insist that you be invited
                                              to all meetings? If so,
                                              what was their response?
                                              Why did you not share
                                              their response with all of
                                              us? Why when, while such
                                              is in any case the duty of
                                              any CS rep, the letter
                                              clearly said that the
                                              Liaisons will keep CS
                                              groups posted about
                                              developments. However,
                                              whereas much has happened
                                              since that time, I dont
                                              remember a single report
                                              by the liaisons to us.
                                              Carlos used to report but
                                              then he had to drop out
                                              since he was made a member
                                              of LOG. But what     about
                                              the three of you?<br>
                                            </blockquote>
                                            <blockquote type="cite"><br>
                                            </blockquote>
                                            <blockquote type="cite">When
                                              after the last LOG
                                              meeting, we got the
                                              bombshell that it has been
                                              officially decided that
                                              1Net will as you say
                                              'filter ALL conversations
                                              with CGI' I wrote
                                              repeatedly to this list
                                              requesting CS Liaisons to
                                              bring us to speed about
                                              what is happening. In
                                              fact, even Ian (and I
                                              think Jeremy) asked for
                                              some information about
                                              what was happening. But
                                              NONE of you responded to
                                              any of our requests....<br>
                                            </blockquote>
                                            <blockquote type="cite"><br>
                                            </blockquote>
                                            <blockquote type="cite">I
                                              think. sorry for my words,
                                              but this is about  a
                                              public duty, and seeking
                                              accountability about it, 
                                              this is a clear abdication
                                              of the role that you all
                                              were given as CS reps... I
                                              am sure there must be an
                                              explanation of this
                                              somewhere, in which case
                                              please do share it. <br>
                                            </blockquote>
                                            <blockquote type="cite"><br>
                                            </blockquote>
                                            <blockquote type="cite">Thanks,
                                              parminder <br>
                                            </blockquote>
                                            <blockquote type="cite"><br>
                                            </blockquote>
                                            <blockquote type="cite"><br>
                                            </blockquote>
                                            <blockquote type="cite"><br>
                                            </blockquote>
                                            <blockquote type="cite">
                                              <blockquote type="cite">So,
                                                it is better to write to
                                                Adiel, not just to CGI.
                                                Here is Adiel email if
                                                you prefer to do so:
                                                Adiel Akplogan <<a
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:adiel@afrinic.net" target="_blank">adiel@afrinic.net</a>><br>
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                                              <blockquote type="cite">--
                                                <br>
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                                            </blockquote>
                                            <blockquote type="cite">
                                              <blockquote type="cite">Carol
                                                (in my personal
                                                capacity) <br>
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