<html><head></head><body><p dir="ltr">Dear all,</p>
<p dir="ltr">May I request that the cross posting be discontinued? I am getting three copies of an increasing proportion of /1net, BestBits and IGC list traffic and I know I am far from alone.</p>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">Michel Gauthier <mg@telepresse.com> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<pre class="k9mail">At 03:46 09/01/2014, John Curran wrote:<br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;">You are conflating what are otherwise distinct events - for example, <br />ARIN is not<br />a signatory to OpenStand; it is orthogonal (not a basis or <br />precondition) of the<br />Montevideo Statement on the Future of Internet Cooperation.<br /></blockquote><br />John .....<br />please let us know who is not endorsing the ISOC OpenStand among the <br />"Lynn and the 11 CEOs"?<br /><a href="https://ripe65.ripe.net/presentations/226-OpenStand_Overview1.pdf">https://ripe65.ripe.net/presentations/226-OpenStand_Overview1.pdf</a><br /><br />Please do not play with the words. There are five signatorees, then <br />the endorsers and the supporters. The ARIN's position in itself is of <br />no particular importance. What is discussed here is the ISOC/ICANN <br />strategy IRT the <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_of_77">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_of_77</a> position <br />over the mutual control of the consolidation of the Internet technology.<br /><br />May I remind you that:<br /><br />- "ISOC is a non-profit organization founded in 1992 to provide <br />*leadership* in Internet-related standards, education, and policy. It <br />is dedicated to ensuring the open development, evolution and use of <br />the Internet for the benefit of people throughout the world."<br />- WCIT has shown that the disagreement is between the notions of <br />"leadership" (ISOC lead) and "MS-ship" (people centered). Sao Paulo <br />should help clarfying it as a societal and global evolution of which <br />the framework is to be defined.<br /><br />However, the ISOC leadership and BRICS have focussed on the internet <br />only forgetting the "layer six" issues. As long as they were only <br />perceived as JEDI's ("Jefsey Morfin Disciple's" according to Martin
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/>Dürst) "idée fixe", its was an epiphenomena. Now DARPA/CGC is a <br />response to IAB's RFC 3869 that confirms the complexity of the <br />"missing layer" file. Because the software development capacity of <br />Russia, China, India, Brazil at least equals the US and Europe one.<br /><br />MG<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><hr /><br />discuss mailing list<br />discuss@1net.org<br /><a href="http://1net.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss">http://1net.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss</a><br /></pre></blockquote></div><br>
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