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<font face="Verdana">BTW, Ian, I had asked you earlier, how many and
which networks have applied to be inside the committee, so that we
can judge the nature and extent of the problem you are trying to
deal with.. I understand that should be public information.<br>
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parminder<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Monday 30 December 2013 10:35 AM,
Ian Peter wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT:
13pt"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Sorry to initiate a
process discussion but I think it is important we move on
on this particular issue.</font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT:
13pt"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">I’m starting this
discussion to get wider input into how civil society
people think it would be appropriate to expand the current
co ordination group. To date, this debate has largely been
about people thinking they should be included rather than
any formal criteria to ensure that the group is
representative while still staying at a reasonable size.</font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT:
13pt"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">The group came into
existence out of a need for civil society groups to work
together to nominate representatives for various forums;
originally for 1net and Brazil events, but certainly with
thoughts of IGF MAG as well in the future. <font
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Currently included (in no
particular order) are the Association for Progressive
Communications (APC), Diplo Foundation, Best Bits, the
Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group of ICANN (NCSG), and
(pending new coordinator elections) the Civil Society
Internet Governance Caucus (IGC).</font></font><font
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"> </font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT:
13pt"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Remember, these are
criteria for a co-ordination group concerned with internet
governance matters. Optimal membership levels may be about
9, I think, but certainly well less than 20. </font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT:
13pt"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">So how do we choose?</font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT:
13pt"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Criteria discussed so
far include:</font></p>
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<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 5pt 36pt;
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auto; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"><span style="COLOR: ;
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en-au; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"><span style="mso-list:
ignore"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">1.</font><span
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face="Times New Roman"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 7pt">
</font></font></span></span></span><span
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Is a coalition which is globally
representative - all regions covered?</font></span><span
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT:
normal"><span style="COLOR: ; mso-ascii-font-family:
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<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt;
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auto; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"><span style="COLOR: ;
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en-au"><span style="mso-list: ignore"><font
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">2.</font><span
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face="Times New Roman"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 7pt">
</font></font></span></span></span><span
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Is it non-commercial and public
interest oriented (as opposed to business)?</font></span></p>
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<font style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">3. Would it more properly
fit under technical community, academic, business or
government in its categorization?</font></span><span
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</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT:
normal"><span style="COLOR: ; mso-ascii-font-family:
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'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: en-au"><font
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">4. Is a large part of this
coalition's members already covered by one of the
existing members?</font></span><span style="COLOR: ;
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT:
normal"><span style="COLOR: ; mso-ascii-font-family:
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT:
normal"><span style="COLOR: ; mso-ascii-font-family:
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5. The internal governance of the coalition is adequately
transparent and accountable to its members. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT:
normal"><span style="COLOR: ; mso-ascii-font-family:
calibri; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman';
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT:
normal"><span style="COLOR: ; mso-ascii-font-family:
calibri; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman';
mso-hansi-font-family: calibri; mso-bidi-font-family:
'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: en-au">Other
suggestions have been discussed from time to time and I
invite others to make up for any omissions here.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT:
normal"><span style="COLOR: ; mso-ascii-font-family:
calibri; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman';
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT:
normal"><span style="COLOR: ; mso-ascii-font-family:
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mso-hansi-font-family: calibri; mso-bidi-font-family:
'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: en-au">An
additional criteria that might be useful would be a
reference to having a substantial current involvement in
and knowledge of internet governance debates. That however
might not be acceptable to all – but for me, the criteria
as they stand would be open to approaches from YWCA,
Medicin sans Frontieres, Pirate Parties International, </span><span
style="COLOR: ; mso-ascii-font-family: calibri;
mso-hansi-font-family: calibri"><font style="FONT-SIZE:
11pt">Red Cross, Amnesty International, CONGO, Creative
Commons, International Commission of Jurists,etc. All
good groups, and it would be great to see them involved
here, but the question is whether the presence of all of
them would be useful for a small working co-ordination
group on matters specific to internet governance. This
along with other suggestions should be discussed.</font></span></p>
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normal"><span style="COLOR: ; mso-ascii-font-family:
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normal"><span style="COLOR: ; mso-ascii-font-family:
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normal"><span style="COLOR: ; mso-ascii-font-family:
calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: calibri"><font
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Interested in any thoughts
relevant to refining this into a workable set of
criteria for expanding a small co-ordination group, the
members of which will be different coalitions of civil
society organisations who will want to maintain their
independence while working together. One thought that
has been raised is to look at rotation of members, or
perhaps a combination of permanent and rotating members.</font></span></p>
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<span style="COLOR: ; mso-ascii-font-family: calibri;
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11pt">So I am just opening this up for conversation to
see what people think. Please this is a discussion
about criteria, not about individual groups and their
cases to be involved. </font></span></p>
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