<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Seems to me that the proposal for an alternate forum, and this other one below, miss out on something. </div><div><br></div><div>Has anybody at all advocating these moves asked the Brazilians whether they have the intent, bandwidth etc to deal with input from a multiplicity of fora / direct input sent by multiple different civil society, and by extension, industry, academia, groups representing other civil society that aren't necessarily the igov usual suspects, etc?</div><div><br>--srs (iPad)</div><div><br>On 28-Dec-2013, at 23:23, parminder <<a href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net">parminder@itforchange.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
  
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    <font face="Verdana">On the other hand, I</font> also agree with
    Bill that this may be too important a matter to be decided just by
    the leadership  of various CS groups.<br>
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    I propose that a vote be taken among membership of different groups
    here whether CS will like to deal directly with Brazilian hosts in
    the matter of participating in the Brazil meeting or go through the
    1Net..<br>
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    parminder <br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Saturday 28 December 2013 11:01 PM,
      parminder wrote:<br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Saturday 28 December 2013 10:52
        PM, parminder wrote:<br>
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        <font face="Verdana">This is some interesting congruence of
          views that is emerging..<br>
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          Can we hope that that 'responsibility holders' among us -
          various committees, their heads, cocordinators of networks,
          our appointed Liaisons, etc come out with their views and
          stand on this issue..... <br>
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      <font face="Verdana">and yes, of course those selected through
        various processes for 1Net committees .... <br>
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          parminder <br>
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        <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Saturday 28 December 2013 10:40
          PM, Louis Pouzin (well) wrote:<br>
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              <div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 10:28 AM,
                William Drake <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com" target="_blank">wjdrake@gmail.com</a>></span>
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                    <div>Thanks Parminder, glad we are able to agree on
                      this.
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                      <div>FWIW my view remains that if the networks
                        involved refuse to work through the 1net
                        mechanism to channel nominations to the
                        Brazilians, they should not have taken positions
                        on the 1net coordination committee, which to
                        date has one identifiable function— channeling
                        nominations to the Brazilians.   If the view is
                        that because its launch and initial expiation
                        were not handled well 1net therefore has no
                        legitimacy as a channel, then the networks
                        shouldn’t lend it legitimacy and should resign
                        from its coordination committee.  I don’t share
                        that view of 1net, but if someone else does they
                        should behave according to their principles
                        rather than trying to have it both ways. </div>
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                <div><b>+ 2<br>
                  </b>Louis <br>
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                      <div>Best</div>
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                      <div>Bill</div>
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