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While I have not followed discussions for more than two weeks now
and may have missed important emails, I am not sure I understand the
reason for not taking a decision now.... Any decision of this kind
wouldnt take more than 3-4 days among a group or 4. So whatever be
the decision, justice demands that it be taken and conveyed. That is
the group's political responsibility. You may also tell us which the
other other organisations with "equal and perhaps better cases' are
there, whom you have to consider. You may have listed them somewhere
and I missed the list. The group taking this decision is of course
aware that the decision has a conflict of interest element - even
if perhaps unavoidable - in that addition of new members affects the
power/ role of the existing ones... This makes the need of making a
decision even more urgent. Therefore a half hearted decision to just
stick to the staus quo without good reason or justification about
any information or circumstance that would make the decision easier
or more just at a latter time than now, does not sound quite right
to me...<br>
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parminder<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Monday 23 December 2013 02:48 PM,
Ian Peter wrote:<br>
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<div>FYI below is a copy of a letter just sent to Michael
Gurstein as regards his recent request to join this group.</div>
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<div>Ian Peter</div>
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<div style="font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a
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title="ian.peter@ianpeter.com"
href="mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com">Ian Peter</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 23, 2013 8:12 PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
title="gurstein@gmail.com"
href="mailto:gurstein@gmail.com">Michael Gurstein</a>
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<div><b>Subject:</b> civil society coordination group
membership</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 10pt;
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Roman"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Dear Michael,</font></font></span><span
style="FONT-FAMILY: ; COLOR: ;
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 10pt;
LINE-HEIGHT: 13pt"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: ; COLOR:
; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman';
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Roman"> </font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: ;
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mso-fareast-language: en-au"><font face="Times New
Roman"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">I am replying
to your request to the civil society
coordination group to make you a member of the
group, representing Community Informatics. You
have suggested that no reply from us affirming
you as a member in a time frame of about 30
hours would be considered by you as a “no”, <span
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>and that you
would be informing others and taking various
actions.</font></font></span><span
style="FONT-FAMILY: ; COLOR: ;
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 10pt;
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Roman"> </font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: ;
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mso-fareast-language: en-au"><font face="Times New
Roman"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">You have also
pointed out in correspondence that the “decision
that you folks make will have quite serious
ramifications both for yourselves, for civil
society in internet governance, and perhaps even
for internet governance itself”</font></font></span><span
style="FONT-FAMILY: ; COLOR: ;
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mso-fareast-language: en-au"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 10pt;
LINE-HEIGHT: 13pt"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: ; COLOR:
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Roman"> </font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: ;
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mso-fareast-language: en-au"><font face="Times New
Roman"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">We also take
this decision seriously. We do not think it is
appropriate to make such a decision without due
consideration, including considering a number of
other organisations who would have equal and
perhaps better cases to make as regards joining
a co-ordination group which must be kept to a
manageable size.</font></font></span><span
style="FONT-FAMILY: ; COLOR: ;
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 10pt;
LINE-HEIGHT: 13pt"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: ; COLOR:
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Roman"> </font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: ;
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mso-fareast-language: en-au"><font face="Times New
Roman"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Accordingly,
and because any decisions we make here can have
substantial ramifications, we have decided to
delay any decisions on expansion of membership
of the co ordination group until they can be
considered properly. In the current
circumstances of limited availability for many
people, that will be after we have completed the
Brazil committee nomination processes in mid
January. With the holiday season and other
commitments as well as the Brazil processes, we
simply do not have time to do this now with the
thoroughness it deserves.</font></font></span><span
style="FONT-FAMILY: ; COLOR: ;
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 10pt;
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Roman"> </font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: ;
COLOR: ; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman';
mso-fareast-language: en-au"><font face="Times New
Roman">We understand the sincerity of your desire
to have your groups viewpoints heard and
considered, which prompted your actions. I can
assure you that the members of the co-ordination
group take their roles seriously, and are
determined that their actions and the
representatives appointed through this process
will represent the diversity of viewpoints and
perspectives held within civil society, and not
just individual organisations.</font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 10pt;
LINE-HEIGHT: 13pt"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: ; COLOR:
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Roman"> </font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: ;
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mso-fareast-language: en-au"><font face="Times New
Roman">I will be copying this reply to the Best
Bits and IGC lists so that others are also aware
of this situation and our reasons for not making a
decision at this stage.</font></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 10pt;
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Roman">Ian Peter</font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 10pt;
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; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman';
mso-fareast-language: en-au"><font face="Times New
Roman">for Co-ordination Group - Virginia Paque
(Diplo), Robin Gross (NCSG), Chat Ramilo (APC),
Jeremy Malcolm (Best Bits) ; replacement member
for IGC still being determined.</font></span></p>
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