<div dir="ltr">The french gov complain in one hand and get inspiration in another about surveillance <a href="http://m.lesechos.fr/tech-medias/les-industriels-se-revoltent-contre-une-surveillance-renforcee-du-net-0203175656091.htm">http://m.lesechos.fr/tech-medias/les-industriels-se-revoltent-contre-une-surveillance-renforcee-du-net-0203175656091.htm</a> (link in french)<div class="gmail_extra">
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2013/12/9 Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ocl@gih.com" target="_blank">ocl@gih.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Hello all,<br>
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this complaining about the (mainly US) Private Sector collecting
information, working hand in hand with Governments to turn the
Internet (and the world) into a huge Big Brother State contrasts
with the message that the accused in this article are sending out:<br>
<a href="http://reformgovernmentsurveillance.com/" target="_blank">http://reformgovernmentsurveillance.com/</a><br>
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So everybody's accusing everybody else in this story.<br>
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Somewhere among all of this virtual smoke lies the truth.<br>
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Kind regards,<br>
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<div>On 09/12/2013 08:37, Jean-Christophe
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<div>What is a bit of concern is that Fleur Pellerin might not be
with full support of other French ministers.</div>
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<div>Gilles Babinet, special French envoy to Nellie Kroes has just
complained about the new French military programme and budget,
showing reinforcement of surveillance spendings and capacities.
A counter response to the US surveillance programmes. Not
exactly in line with Fleur Pellerin. Certainly not the right way
to address the issue. What's the quai d'Orsay saying? Martinon?</div>
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<div>Again, and again, we need to have, among other things, a
governance ecosystem constraining states to better behavior. If
this goes specifically through international law and a
multilateral agreement, let's be it. With one global
multilateral convention, we might stop this overall governmental
escalation of paranoia. The US has not shown the right
direction. Is Eli Noam right? Are we going toward an inevitable
balkanization of the Internet?</div>
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<div>:-(</div>
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<div>Le 9 déc. 2013 à 09:19, chlebrum . a écrit :</div>
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Digital Ministry interview in Le Monde Newspaper,</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2013/12/7 Jean-Louis FULLSACK <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jlfullsack@orange.fr" target="_blank">jlfullsack@orange.fr</a>></span><br>
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<p>Dear members of the list</p>
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<p>A very interesting article which might be central to
Internet governance because it's about the global
misuse of it by one Big Brother State -the US- with
"Five Eyes ".</p>
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<p>Title and subtitle :</p>
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<h1>Saving the Net from the surveillance state: Glenn
Greenwald speaks up (Q&A)</h1>
<p>The man to whom Edward Snowden entrusted his NSA
documents isn't content just to save the Bill of
Rights and reinvent journalism. He also wants to
stop the Internet from becoming history's most
dangerous spy tool.</p>
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<p>Lets take our time to read it. It's here :</p>
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<p><a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57613838-38/saving-the-net-from-the-surveillance-state-glenn-greenwald-speaks-up-q-a/?tag=nl.e496&s_cid=e496&ttag=e496&ftag=CAD1c318f6" target="_blank">http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57613838-38/saving-the-net-from-the-surveillance-state-glenn-greenwald-speaks-up-q-a/?tag=nl.e496&s_cid=e496&ttag=e496&ftag=CAD1c318f6</a> </p>
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