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<br><div><div>On Dec 8, 2013, at 9:14 PM, Ian Peter <<a href="mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com">ian.peter@ianpeter.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">
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<div>Hi Bill,</div>
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<div>What you can tell your colleagues off list who are not already aware is
that a group of civil society organisations, who in past years have nominated
candidates to MAG CSTD etc separately, are working together to try to come up
with common candidate slates for things like 1net steering committee, Brazil
committees etc. I personally cant tell you the beginnings because I wasn’t there
– I joined a little later when I was asked to take up a facilitation role.</div>
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<div>The current members are Best Bits, NCSG, Diplo, APC and IGC – although IGC
is perhaps less active given the rather difficult state of its affairs recently.
Hopefully this is a temporary situation.</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>Yes I know about the nomcom, not my question. I was asking for some friendly clarifications about BB, presumably to the BB steering committee.<br><blockquote type="cite"><div style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space" dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri;">
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<div>There has been no approach from ISOC to join. As far as I know ISOC
organises technical community representation for MAG CSTD etc so probably has a
quite different role to perform.</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>You must be responding to Avri here, I didn’t mention ISOC.<br><blockquote type="cite"><div style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space" dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri;">
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<div>There has been confusion because some people are talking of a wider civil
society coalition emerging (This prompted my questions and those of Carlos as to
how this would relate to organisations such as Best Bits IGC etc). Although I
have no problems which such an initiative if there is a need for it, I have made
it clear that my personal involvement here is purely facilitating co-operation
for the selection of common representatives, and any wider organisation
establishment is a different process and will need to be facilitated
separately. </div>
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<div>I hope that helps. This is a genuine attempt to get common nominations from
civil society groups, and certainly has involvement and support of some of those
most active in this field. </div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>I recognize that, and was not asking about it.</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space" dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri;"><div>And certainly the nominations and expressions of
interest coming forward are from a very wide range of civil society interests
who are involved with the above groups and their diverse global networks.</div>
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<div>As regards statements – all of the above organisations, and individuals
within them, are likely to make statements on issues that others in this
coordination group would not agree with, on this list and on others. There have
been no official statements on issues from this group to date and if there are
in future they will be clearly identified as such.</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>Right.</div><div><br></div><div>All the best,</div><div><br></div><div>Bill<br><blockquote type="cite"><div style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space" dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri;">
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<div>Ian Peter</div>
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<div style="font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a title="william.drake@uzh.ch" href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch">William Drake</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 09, 2013 1:35 AM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="governance@lists.igcaucus.org" href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">Governance</a> ; <a title="avri@ella.com" href="mailto:avri@ella.com">Avri Doria</a> </div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [governance] Message to the IGC [Call for Wider Civil
Society to engage in a Coalition]</div></div></div>
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<div>On Dec 8, 2013, at 2:44 PM, Avri Doria <<a href="mailto:avri@ella.com">avri@ella.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
<blockquote type="cite">Hi,<br><br>If it is networks and not organizations, or
organized entities, thanx I do not believe that IGC belongs in the list of
enumerated networks.<br><br>Especially since almost all the members of the IGC
are also in the BB. To me this this looks like double dipping.<br></blockquote>
<div> </div>I understand the argument but am not sure which is the second
dip. To my knowledge, BB is a platform that allows orgs and individuals to
sign onto statements, it doesn’t have a fixed membership. So absent a sign
on in support, who would the representative of BB on the 1net coordination group
or any other collaboration (e.g. the SP committees) actually represent, besides
the five BB steering committee members?</div>
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<div>BB is a good initiative with good folks but I just don’t understand its
status in this context. Nor do I understand what its position is on
1net and related, since key participants keep saying rather different things on
the lists, some of them in rather ringingly definitive terms like “Civil society
believes xyz” (needless to say, the rest of civil society was not asked and may
not agree). I think it’d be helpful if the steering committee
would pow wow and come out with a clear statement as to its positions and for
whom exactly they are speaking, as the various messages have caused a lot of
confusion among other stakeholders on 1net who’ve been asking off list who are
these folks and what’s the deal with them, and I have no idea how to
respond.</div>
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<div>Best</div>
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<div>Bill</div>
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<blockquote type="cite"><br>ISOC is a reasonable
addition.<br>~~~<br>avri<br></blockquote></div></div><div>
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