<html><head></head><body>Hi,<br>
<br>
I was reminded that ISOC includes organizational members who are business. So it is a multistakeholder group not a CS group.<br>
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My point on IGC and BB being essentially duplicates of each other stands, though. I waver on which I think is more appropriate , but I believe they cannot both be represented in any leadership committees, unless it is by one person.<br>
~~~<br>
avri<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">Avri Doria <avri@ella.com> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
Hi,<br />
<br />
If it is networks and not organizations, or organized entities, thanx I do not believe that IGC belongs in the list of enumerated networks.<br />
<br />
Especially since almost all the members of the IGC are also in the BB. To me this this looks like double dipping.<br />
<br />
ISOC is a reasonable addition.<br />
~~~<br />
avri<br /><br /><div class="gmail_quote">Nnenna Nwakanma <nnenna75@gmail.com> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div>My understanding so far is that the the "coordination" is that of "networks" not organisations.<br /><br /></div>Someone had suggested ISOC and there is the CI Network.<br />
<br /></div>The role of this "Coordination" for the moment is just to support nomcom actions for 1Net and consolidate for inter-network communications.<br /><br /></div>Giving the impression that you need to be in the "coordination" to be able to have a say in CS issues is misleading. Lately, there has been that feeling going on..<br />
<br /></div>I think we need to check this tendency.<br /><br /></div>Best<br /><br /></div>N<br /></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br /><br /><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 10:17 PM, Carlos A. Afonso <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ca@cafonso.ca" target="_blank">ca@cafonso.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br />
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I concur with Ian. Also, "wider inclusion" in what exactly?<br />
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On 12/03/2013 01:46 AM, Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro wrote:<br />
> Hi,<br />
><br />
> This is not a new initiative but simply one which I have been pushing for since Bali which is wider inclusion of civil society organisations rather than just:<br />
><br />
>> Association for Progressive Commuications (APC)<br />
>> Best Bits<br />
>> Civil Society Internet Governance Caucus<br />
>> Diplo Foundation<br />
>> ICANN's Non Commercial Stakeholder Group<br />
><br />
> Currently, the steering committee comprises of these 5 organisations but i would like to see more come to the table as we need to be inclusive and not exclusive and clique based.<br />
><br />
> This would simply mean ensuring that there is harmonized and seamless communication and joint synergistic efforts within civil society because it would be a farce to suggest increasing accountability and transparency from other constituencies and when within our own we are isolated.<br />
><br />
> Kind Regards,<br />
> Sala<br />
><br />
> Sent from my iPad<br />
><br />
>> On Dec 3, 2013, at 4:24 PM, "Ian Peter" <<a href="mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com">ian.peter@ianpeter.com</a>> wrote:<br />
>><br />
>> For clarity -<br />
>><br />
>> I am not entirely sure what initiative Sala is referring to here. It appears to be a new one and unrelated to the smaller representative grouping listed below, which is looking towards ways of jointly nominating CS reps to various bodies and is not seeking to undertake the sorts of tasks and networking Sala envisages.<br />
>><br />
>> It is also not clear to me how this new network Sala is referring to would be different to either Best Bits or IGC?<br />
>><br />
>> Ian Peter<br />
>><br />
>> From: michael gurstein<br />
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 1:02 PM<br />
>> To: <a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a> ; 'Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro'<br />
>> Subject: RE: [governance] Message to the IGC [Call for Wider Civil Society to engage in a Coalition]<br />
>><br />
>> Hi Sala,<br />
>><br />
>> I’d like to have the Community Informatics network added to this.. as per the below…<br />
>><br />
>> From: <a href="mailto:governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org">governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org">governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org</a>] On Behalf Of Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro<br />
>> Sent: Monday, December 02, 2013 9:39 AM<br />
>> To: <a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a><br />
>> Subject: [governance] Message to the IGC [Call for Wider Civil Society to engage in a Coalition]<br />
>><br />
>> Dear All,<br />
>><br />
>> At the moment, there is a loose network of some civil society organisations namely:<br />
>><br />
>> Association for Progressive Commuications (APC)<br />
>> Best Bits<br />
>> Civil Society Internet Governance Caucus<br />
>> Diplo Foundation<br />
>> ICANN's Non Commercial Stakeholder Group<br />
>> [In alphabetical order]<br />
>><br />
>> I would really like to see more civil society organisations work together to collaborate on designing the way forward and strategies. If you feel that you would like your civil society organisation to be part of a wider collaborative effort, please respond to this email by submitting the name of your organisation. Please feel free to send this onwards to your respective cosmos.<br />
>><br />
>> The names put forward can be used to forge a Coalition of a wider civil society based network. If you would like to be part of a wider Coalition, please respond to this email with following information:<br />
>><br />
>> Name of the Organisation or Network (and when organisation or network was first formed)<br />
>> [MG>] Community Informatics Network/Community Informatics Research Network—founded 2000<br />
>> Details of Constituency represented (Please also identify whether this is a country based/regional or international)<br />
>> [MG>] community, grassroots and grassroots oriented ICT practitioners, researchers, policy analysts—global (1500+/-<br />
>> Name of Coordinator of Organisation/Network<br />
>> [MG>] Michael Gurstein (host)<br />
>> Contact Details (including website)<br />
>> [MG>] <a href="mailto:gurstein@gmail.com">gurstein@gmail.com</a>; <a href="http://www.communityinformatics.net" target="_blank">http://www.communityinformatics.net</a>; <a href="http://vancouvercommunity.net/lists/arc/ciresearchers" target="_blank">http://vancouvercommunity.net/lists/arc/ciresearchers</a><br />
>> Name of one Nominee to the Coalition who will speak on administrative matters where it comes to the wider coalition<br />
>> [MG>] (Interim) Michael Gurstein<br />
>> Best,<br />
>> M<br />
>> Should you be interested in the wider Coalition and engaging collaboratively, kindly respond ASAP. There will be communiques sent to a mailing list that will be created that will inform you of events that are happening to enable you to stream the information to your networks and allow for authentic bottom up, grassroots engagement in the diverse regions of the world. This will help enable authentic global civil society engagement and make it truly inclusive.<br />
>><br />
>><br />
>><br />
>> Kind Regards,<br />
>> Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro<br />
>><br />
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