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<div style="direction: ltr;font-family: Tahoma;color: #000000;font-size: 10pt;">It'<span style="font-size: 10pt;">s actually a confusion of domains to consider governments as "stakeholders" in the same sense that an individual, a civil society organization
or a business or trade association is a stakeholder. Especially when governments are treated as if they are unitary actors who aggregate the interests of an entire nation. </span>
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<div>Governments qua governments are supposed to aggregate and represent all the "stakeholders" under their jurisdiction. To combine direct, representation of stakeholders with unitary national governments is to throw together two completely incompatible systems
of representation. That is what so many people don't get about MSM<br>
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<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, December 01, 2013 4:05 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> governance@lists.igcaucus.org; Guru गुरु<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [governance] [bestbits] What is 1Net? Blog post by Paul Wilson of APNIC<br>
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<div>Why shouldn't they be?<br>
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On 01-Dec-2013, at 14:08, Guru गुरु <<a href="mailto:Guru@ITforChange.net" target="_blank">Guru@ITforChange.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div class="moz-signature">On 12/01/2013 11:02 AM, Paul Wilson wrote:<br>
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<pre>Thanks Suresh.
Indeed, I was referring to the "Internet community" in the broadest sense, including all stakeholders.
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are Governments included in this 'all stakeholders'<br>
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<pre>Paul.
On 30/11/2013, at 8:45 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:suresh@hserus.net" target="_blank"><suresh@hserus.net></a> wrote:
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<pre>Not speaking for Paul but the definition of Internet community he appears to refer to is quite open, and more importantly, does not seek to specifically exclude particular classes of people or organizations.
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On 30-Nov-2013, at 0:57, "michael gurstein" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gurstein@gmail.com" target="_blank"><gurstein@gmail.com></a> wrote:
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<pre>Thanks for the pointer to this very interesting post Nnenna.
Paul uses the term “Internet community” in several places and I’m curious what he means by it…
I have a feeling that we may not all have a similar definition (or that our definitions are evolving) and that that might be one reason why our discussions often go off the rails—we have different conceptions of who the audience or target group is for various of the policy issues that we address from time to time.
(I provided my own definition in my current blogpost, but I’m not sure that everyone here agrees with mine J and of course ISOC, ICANN, IETF also all use the term “Internet community” and if those folks also want to chime in it would be greatly appreciated.
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From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:bestbits-request@lists.bestbits.net" target="_blank">bestbits-request@lists.bestbits.net</a> [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:bestbits-request@lists.bestbits.net" target="_blank">mailto:bestbits-request@lists.bestbits.net</a>] On Behalf Of Nnenna Nwakanma
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Subject: [bestbits] What is 1Net? Blog post by Paul Wilson of APNIC
Just published here:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.circleid.com/posts/2013112_what_is_1net_to_me/" target="_blank">http://www.circleid.com/posts/2013112_what_is_1net_to_me/</a>
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