<div dir="ltr"><div>Norbert,</div><div>Although not contributing much to the various debates, and not fulfilling my promises to complete a nomcom report, I have quietly admired your work and the scope of the discussions you have moderated. I have seen where you have tried, unsuccessfully for the most part to calm the disturbing waters of those with personal agendas, thin skins, self importance and just plain arrogance.</div>
<div> </div><div>Through all of that I believe both you and Sala kept the focus of the IGC paramount in our minds, and have judiciously maintained a balance between contending views. For this I say thank you, and wish you all the best for the future.</div>
<div> </div><div>Devon</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Ian Peter <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com" target="_blank">ian.peter@ianpeter.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Sorry to hear this Norbert - I think the last couple of years have been very tough for everyone - certainly tough for all of us trying to contribute positively, and it must have been much tougher for those attempting to co ordinate.<br>
<br>
I appreciate your decision and the timing. We are within a week of new elections, and with a number of good candidates putting their name forward, perhaps a new start with two new co ordinators isn't such a bad thing. An opportunity perhaps to solve a few serious problems.<br>
<br>
I have had the opportunity to work closely with you on a few issues, and I do appreciate the perspective you have brought to a number of issues. I do hope civil society does not lose these altogether.<br>
<br>
Ian Peter<br>
<br>
-----Original Message----- From: Norbert Bollow<div class="im HOEnZb"><br>
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 9:43 PM<br>
To: Internet Governance<br>
Subject: [governance] Resignation (was Re: URGENT: Request for input...)<br>
<br></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">
Dear all<br>
<br>
Hereby I announce my resignation from the role of IGC co-coordinator,<br>
in protest of<br>
<br>
1) The overall lack of supportive attitude among IGC members.<br>
<br>
2) The specific lack of constructive engagement in relation to recent<br>
attempts at using the IGC statement drafting process (for example,<br>
in the most recent attempt, the only reaction was an attempt to<br>
undermine the stated purpose of the Brazil meeting, and when I tried<br>
to have a constructive conversation about that point, the response<br>
was in fact a personal attack).<br>
<br>
>From this criticism of "lack of supportive attitude" I'd like to<br>
explicitly exclude the "silent majority" (there's nothing wrong with<br>
simply lurking) as well as everyone else to whom this criticism does<br>
not apply, most but not all of them civil society people. Actually a<br>
lot of people were seeking to be supportive (I'm sure that you know<br>
who you are! And I hereby thank you!) but faced the same reality as I am<br>
the there are obvious limits on how much can be done in a generally<br>
hostile environment where the hostile attitudes are so deeply ingrained<br>
that the attempt to enforce the posting rules triggers so much<br>
obnoxiousness that the overall level of hostility increases rather than<br>
decreases.<br>
<br>
In fact the number of people who were seeking to be supportive may well<br>
exceed the number of people who together created what I've called "the<br>
overall lack of supportive attitude among IGC members". The overall<br>
attitude communicated by a group is not determined by how the majority<br>
feel, but by what is most of the time being said and done, or not.<br>
<br>
As a point of accountability, I'm perfectly willing to answer any<br>
questions that people may want to ask about my actions during the time<br>
that I served as co-coordinator, as well as about the underlying<br>
reasons, to the extent that such questions can be answered without<br>
violating reasonable expectations of confidentiality (e.g. I'm still<br>
not going to answer questions about he "private warnings" process).<br>
<br>
Greetings,<br>
Norbert<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Mawaki Chango <<a href="mailto:kichango@gmail.com" target="_blank">kichango@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid">
Strange and confusing, indeed.<br>
The last line of the PR Newswire pieces on this panel (as per the URL<br>
forwarded initially) reads: "Additional members to be confirmed." And<br>
all what we hear next is "hurry up and give your blessing to the list<br>
of names that a handful number of us have _informally_ agreed on."<br>
One would have hoped that IGC co-cos would provide some feedback of<br>
the kind Bill just provided as well as the clarification he asked<br>
for. On the other hand, I can't even count how many times now I have<br>
read something like "we will set up a proper NomCom process" blah<br>
blah. It's not as if we've been busy doing some productive<br>
substantive work in IGC. Informal and ad hoc, that's how we roll<br>
these days across CS.<br>
<br>
For the two names that have been asked for, I'd suggest:<br>
1) Milton Mueller<br>
2) Your choice<br>
<br>
Mawaki<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 9:10 PM, William Drake <<a href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch" target="_blank">william.drake@uzh.ch</a>><br>
wrote:<br>
<br>
> Hi<br>
><br>
> When Fadi was told last weekend in BA that there had been<br>
> expressions of discontent on various IG lists about the lack of CS<br>
> representation, he said ok, send me a name from the community. I<br>
> didn’t understand this as an ironclad commitment that they’d<br>
> automatically appoint any name we provided, but rather as an<br>
> invitation to suggest someone we think would be good (on a panel of<br>
> CEOs and politicians). Now it’s been decided to demand that two<br>
> people be empaneled, and a widening search for names is underway.<br>
> Has anyone been in touch with Fadi or President Ilves to let them<br>
> know what we’re doing and get their reaction? As the first meeting<br>
> of the HLP is in two weeks, one imagines the planning is well<br>
> underway, so it would be good for them to know what to expect,<br>
> when….<br>
><br>
> Best,<br>
><br>
> Bill<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Nov 26, 2013, at 6:59 PM, Norbert Bollow <<a href="mailto:nb@bollow.ch" target="_blank">nb@bollow.ch</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Dear all<br>
><br>
> Here's a quick update...<br>
><br>
> So far, in addition the following have been suggested, some in<br>
> public postings, some privately:<br>
><br>
> Anju Mangal, Grace Githaiga, Judy Okite, Nnenna Nwakanma, Michael<br>
> Gurstein, Thomas Lowenhaupt.<br>
><br>
> I have written to each of them to enquire about their willingness to<br>
> serve on this "Panel". So far, Grace Githaiga, Michael Gurstein,<br>
> and Thomas Lowenhaupt have replied positively.<br>
><br>
> Please note that the deadline for any additional suggestions is<br>
> rather soon.<br>
><br>
> In regard to the question that has been raised about process: This<br>
> is right now an ad hoc process aimed at making --in a way that is<br>
> coordinated across civil society networks as well as we can in a<br>
> very tight timeframe-- a demand for increased civil society<br>
> representation on the "Panel on the Future of Global Internet<br>
> Cooperation"; this is not directly related to 1net nor to any of<br>
> the various committees that will need to be formed in view of the<br>
> Global Meeting in Brazil. I certainly hope that it will be possible<br>
> to set up a proper NomCom process for those selection tasks, and<br>
> that we'll find a way to do that in a way that is again coordinated<br>
> across civil society networks.<br>
><br>
> Greetings,<br>
> Norbert<br>
><br>
><br>
> Am Mon, 25 Nov 2013 23:56:57 +0100<br>
> schrieb Norbert Bollow <<a href="mailto:nb@bollow.ch" target="_blank">nb@bollow.ch</a>>:<br>
><br>
> Dear all,<br>
><br>
> there is now an informal coordination group of some kind<br>
> (tentatively called "steering committee", although I expect that<br>
> that name will probably be changed) consisting of Anriette<br>
> Esterhuysen for APC, Jeremy Malcolm for BestBits, Robin Gross for<br>
> NCSG, Virginia Paque for DIPLO, myself for IGC, and Ian Peter as<br>
> facilitator.<br>
><br>
> The most urgent issue is to demand better civil society<br>
> representation on the Panel on the Future of Global Internet<br>
> Cooperation" organized by ICANN [1].<br>
><br>
> [1]<br>
><br>
> <a href="http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/high-level-panel-organizes-to-address-future-of-internet-governance-232274461.html" target="_blank">http://www.prnewswire.com/<u></u>news-releases/high-level-<u></u>panel-organizes-to-address-<u></u>future-of-internet-governance-<u></u>232274461.html</a><br>
><br>
> The current idea is that we would jointly nominate two additional<br>
> civil society people for this panel.<br>
><br>
> The following names have been suggested so far:<br>
><br>
> Anriette Esterhuysen, Eben Moglen, Milton Mueller, Sean O'Siochru,<br>
> Valeria Betancourt, Vladimir Radunovik, William Drake.<br>
><br>
> In view of the tight deadline, please provide any input that you<br>
> wish to be considered ASAP, at the latest by 23.00 UTC tomorrow<br>
> Tuesday which is about 24 hours from now.)<br>
><br>
> Greetings,<br>
> Norbert<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
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