<div dir="ltr">Mawaki,<div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 7:27 AM, Mawaki Chango <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kichango@gmail.com" target="_blank">kichango@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div class="im">On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Deirdre Williams <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:williams.deirdre@gmail.com" target="_blank">williams.deirdre@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>I began this message 12 days ago in response to a thread started by Michael Gurstein </div>
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Let's Get Real Folks--Re: [governance] Re: [bestbits] DISCLOSURE REQUEST Re: Funding Available for Strengthening Civil Society</h1>
<div>I gave up. Now I am encouraged to try again by this new thread </div><div><div><h1 style="font-size:17.27272605895996px"><span>Re: [governance] Inter-stakeholder issues in a multi-stakeholder environment</span></h1>
</div></div><div><span>begun by George Sadowsky.</span></div><div><br></div>Is there any way to shift the focus from the people to the issues?<div>In the final analysis everyone belongs to civil society. That point was made by a representative of a local telecommunications company at a recent workshop on IXPs held in Saint Lucia. As he said, his children also query the speed of the Internet at home when they have to do their homework. The only people excluded from civil society are incarcerated prisoners, and that also is a statement that can be questioned. If I understand him correctly George Sadowsky is making the same point. Civil society is us - all of us.</div>
</div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>Sure! We may declare everybody is CS and expect any institutional policy process to open mike to whoever walks in and requests to speak as CS. From my part, I was working on the basis of assumptions I thought were widely recognized as part of the current landscape --and even an inevitable part. If we want to talk about _multistakeholder_ processes, then we cannot but recognize multiple stakeholders, thus boundaries.</div>
</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>The above only applies if you are talking about the Geneva-centric IG landscape. What I call "meta-IG".</div><div><br></div><div>Here is an example where it does not apply at all. All "stakeholders" come together as co-equals, with zero boundaries. <br>
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<div class="gmail_quote"><div> If we have set up IGC as a membership structure, then we have necessarily identified criteria for membership, thus boundaries.</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Correct, because we are so focused on Geneva and the "political power" that SGs have in those processes. </div>
<div> </div><div><br></div></div>-- <br>Cheers,<br><br>McTim<br>"A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel
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