<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Jeremy,<div><br></div><div>I can understand your feeling, although I don't agree with your point. I think you're assuming that if you don't have a equilibrated balance of vocal forces that represent UN-defined stakeholder groups in a group (in every group?) that the group lacks legitimacy. I think that is a view based on antagonistic relationships between groups, and that it does not represent reality. See my long post to the list of a few hours ago.</div><div><br></div><div>I've reviewed the list of panelists, and I see names of people who support a multiplicity of goals, including those expressed by the representatives of civil society in the vocal civil society groups within the multi-stakeholder framework. Furthermore, this panel is only one of the sources of information and opinions that will go into the Internet governance discussions, both for the Brazil meeting and for the longer term.</div><div><br></div><div>I think that it would be more constructive for members of stakeholder groups to stress the end goals that they are for, and work with other representatives to seriously address agreements and differences, rather than to express negativity regarding process.</div><div><br></div><div>I agree with the sentiments in your last sentence below. Let's focus on substantive issues.</div><div><br></div><div>George </div><div><br></div><div> </div><div><br></div><div> <br><div><div>On Nov 17, 2013, at 11:06 PM, Jeremy Malcolm wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">
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So it seems that ICANN has taken it upon itself to select the civil
society representatives for the High Level Panel on the Future of
Global Internet Cooperation, which is what became of its 5th panel
on Internet evolution. Previously Fadi had claimed that the fate of
the 5th panel would be a decision for (what is now) the 1net
dialogue, but evidently this was just more bluff.<br>
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The civil society representatives that ICANN helpful chose on our
behalf
do not include the most expert names on Internet governance
evolution. And meanwhile ISOC is "representing" civil society in
other processes such as in the UNGA draft resolution on the right to
privacy in the digital age. The technical community, supported by
its hundreds of millions of dollars in revenue, is eating broader
civil society alive.<br>
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We are being completely left behind while we are dithering over
questions about whether to send the letter nominating our
representatives to the Brazil meeting, and whether our mailing list
should be open or closed. It is absolutely imperative now that we
put internal process issues on hold, and focus on urgent substantive
issues.<br>
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Will post something more practical about all this to the new (though
now already mis-named) "summit" list.<br>
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