<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>Dear Ian and others,<br><br></div>I apologise I was in the middle of a very intense week and having food allergies did not help my keeping up with the listserv. As you can imagine, there is an ever more present need to have people who can be bridges between diverse constituencies and George is well placed to be a bridge. This does not have to be formal and can be ad hoc and if George is willing, we should welcome this.<br>
<br></div>Personally, I would be grateful to George for stepping up to help bridge the differences and he is someone who has the respect of the technical community. He is an amazing person in that whilst we may disagree from time to time on certain issues, his capacity to engage, dialogue and communicate is awesome. George has a great heart and love for the Internet, development and is someone whom I would strongly recommend to help us bridge the gaps.<br>
<br></div>Best Regards,<br>Sala<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 11:03 AM, George Sadowsky <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:george.sadowsky@gmail.com" target="_blank">george.sadowsky@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">Hi, Ian,<div><br></div><div>Sala and I talked while we were both in Buenos Aires. Perhaps I can clarify my sense of what she may have been proposing.</div>
<div><br></div><div>There is at the moment somewhat of a gulf between the technical community and the list(s) used by the proclaimed representatives of civil society. Sometimes such differences of opinion, as well as fact, can be resoled rather quickly if they are discussed directly by people on both sides of the issue, rather than being left to fester and feed growing suspicion and/or discontent. I think that Sala thought that having some announced or implied line of communication, clearly non-exclusive, might be helpful at times. I thought so, too.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Having seen little response from anyone on this list, perhaps the idea isn't welcome in the more formalized sense in which it has been presented, and I can understand that. I think that perhaps I could be more active from time to time in the discussions that occur, and that might help to bridge some differences between the communities. Although I consider myself more technical in the context of Internet governance discussions, I do have roots in development activities that are quite consistent with some of the expressions of opinion posted to this and similar lists.</div>
<div><br></div><div>George</div><div><br></div><div>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ </div><div><div class="h5"><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Nov 18, 2013, at 1:12 AM, Ian Peter wrote:</div>
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<div>Hi Sala, </div>
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<div>a matter of clarification please.</div>
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<div>Are you suggesting that George be a point of liaison within the technical
community for civil society, or that George be a civil society representative
liaising with the technical community?</div>
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<div>I am all in favour of the former, and admire George’s work, but I doubt
whether George would be entirely comfortable with the latter role and even if he
was I doubt that would be acceptable to many on this list. </div>
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<div>Ian Peter</div>
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<div><b>From:</b> <a title="salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com" href="mailto:salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com" target="_blank">Salanieta T.
Tamanikaiwaimaro</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 18, 2013 4:20 AM</div>
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<div><b>Cc:</b> <a title="george.sadowsky@gmail.com" href="mailto:george.sadowsky@gmail.com" target="_blank">George Sadowsky</a> </div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> [governance] Fadi Speech to ALAC, Brazil 2014 Meeting and
need for IGC and civil society Liaisons</div></div></div>
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<font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3"></font><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 10pt"><span><font color="#000000" face="Calibri" size="3">As you can imagine, since Bali and in light of the
“multistakeholder” event that will be hosted by the Brazil on the future on
Internet Governance called: </font><font size="3"><font color="#000000"><font face="Calibri"><b><i>"Global Multistakeholder <br>Meeting on the Future on
Internet Governance,"</i><span> </span></b><span>it becomes inherently critical
that we start preparing to shape the Agenda. Many thanks to Carlos and Hartmut
for keeping us informed of what is happening within Brazil and for taking the
time to translate from Portuguese to English when the need demands.
Unfortunately, there were no live transcripts although transcripts will be
provided unlike the live stream available to the GAC community (tongue in
cheek). <span> </span>To watch the vide of Fadi speaking:
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<span><font size="3"><font color="#000000"><font face="Calibri">ICANN CEO Fadi Chehadi spoke about the manner
in which ICANN is going to engage in what I thought was a very mature response
symbolic of the desire to engage with
communities.</font></font></font></span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3"></font><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 10pt"><span><font size="3"><font color="#000000"><font face="Calibri"><span> </span>As you can imagine in the
lead up to the preparations for 2014 we as global civil society need to
consolidate to prepare.<span> </span>There have been discussions going on
offlist amongst the various facilitators of some of the core civil society
groups about how this is to take place where it has centered on the
possibilities of a joint framework for engagement of civil society
including<span> </span>Multistakeholder selection processes for some of
the key positions. There was suggestion to experiment first with the combined
NomCom for the MAG and I highlighted that this could be difficult in light of
the pressing deadlines.<span> </span>There may be room however for joint
endorsements but I will leave this to the NomCom Chair. At this point, I do not
want to burden our NomCom as they are working against a very narrow and tight
deadline. Whilst we are waiting for the other groups to comment on coordinated
and shared framework for engagement, I would like to propose the following to
the IGC.</font></font></font></span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3"></font><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 10pt"><span><font size="3"><font color="#000000"><font face="Calibri">Given that we do not have time nor the
resources, it has been by way of an ad hoc nature common for people who are
involved in foras or diverse communities to provide feedback on what is
happening randomly. This to a large extent happens but my sense is that we need
to be better coordinated and have different people watch the different spaces
they are in and liaise back with the IGC. I suggested that this could be done
with and through combined civil society but I think we need to pick up the pace
and start anyway whilst waiting.</font></font></font></span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3"></font><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 10pt"><span><font size="3"><font color="#000000"><font face="Calibri">To this extent, I would propose that in the
spirit of enhanced cooperation that we use our own people within civil society
who happen to wear multiple hats to act as liaisons, even if temporary at this
point until such time where we can coordinate more permanent representation. I
feel that the IGC should have liaisons in the following
circles:</font></font></font></span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3"></font><div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0pt;margin-left:0.5in"><font color="#000000"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:symbol"><span><font size="3">·</font><span style="FONT:7pt 'Times New Roman';font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal">
</span></span></span><span><font size="3"><font face="Calibri">Technical Community
</font></font></span></font></div><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3"></font><div style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0pt;margin-left:0.5in"><font color="#000000"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:symbol"><span><font size="3">·</font><span style="FONT:7pt 'Times New Roman';font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal">
</span></span></span><span><font size="3"><font face="Calibri">Business
Community</font></font></span></font></div><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3"></font><p style="MARGIN:0in 0in 10pt 0.5in"><font color="#000000"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:symbol"><span><font size="3">·</font><span style="FONT:7pt 'Times New Roman';font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal">
</span></span></span><span><font size="3"><font face="Calibri">Governments</font></font></span></font></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3"></font><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 10pt"><span><font size="3"><font color="#000000"><font face="Calibri">The liaisons role would be to be a bridge into
these communities to channel developments of what is happening within these
communities that are of relevance to civil society and also from time to time
raise the issues of civil society or broker and facilitate the process through
which these views can be heard. If there are people who feel they can function
in these roles, we need volunteers. This is to ensure that we know what is
happening at all times.</font></font></font></span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3"></font><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 10pt"><span><font size="3"><font color="#000000"><font face="Calibri">The IGC has two options, we can utilize a
formal process and invite calls for nominations and have a NomCom make the
selection. On another note, we can maintain the informal ad hoc liaison process
that is currently in place. My personal preference is for the latter to allow
for volunteers who are consistent and command the respect of the diverse
communities.</font></font></font></span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3"></font><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 10pt"><span><font size="3"><font color="#000000"><font face="Calibri">Given the current deadlines and politics
surrounding the 2014 Meeting in Brazil, I propose that we have <b>George
Sadowski </b>to act as liaison for us to the technical community. I am of the
view that we can have at least two to three liaisons as the Technical Community
is diverse and spread out between the ETSI, W3C, ITU-T, IETF, ICANN, IAB, RIR
etc. <span> </span>For now the liaison function can be limited to the
developments of the Rio engagement with room to evolve into identifying issues
affecting global public interest that civil society might want to monitor in a
consistent and cohesive manner. Whilst George is also a member of the ICANN
Board, I am not asking him as an ICANN Board member but as a member of the
IGC.</font></font></font></span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3"></font><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 10pt"><span><font size="3"><font color="#000000"><font face="Calibri"><span> </span>If there are those that wish
to join George in this role, there is nothing stopping a list of volunteers from
being part of a team that condenses the issues in diverse stratas and feeds it
back into the IGC in a consolidated manner.</font></font></font></span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3"></font><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 10pt"><span><font size="3"><font color="#000000"><font face="Calibri">As we engage in coming to the table to set the
Agenda, we need to do so intelligently and cohesively and in a coordinated
manner. This was one of the things raised in the meeting in
Bali-</font></font></font></span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3"></font>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 10pt"><span><font size="3"><font color="#000000"><font face="Calibri">In the future as the IGC evolves, there is
space to develop a working group to focus on technical and policy stratas that
we may wish to organize our advocacies in. For a long while, advocacy has been
happening via individuals or groups that have pet topics and issues.
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 10pt"><span><font size="3"><font color="#000000"><font face="Calibri">Kind Regards,</font></font></font></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 10pt"><span><font size="3"><font color="#000000"><font face="Calibri">Sala</font></font></font></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 10pt"><span><font color="#000000" face="Calibri" size="3">(In my personal capacity)</font></span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 10pt"><span><font color="#000000" face="Calibri" size="3">George Sadowski Profile and Biography</font></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 10pt"><span>GEORGE SADOWSKY:
BIOGRAPHY</span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 10pt"><span>George Sadowsky is
currently a member of the Board of Directors of ICANN (Internet </span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 10pt"><span>Corporation for Assigned
Names and Numbers) and a consultant to, inter alia, the World Wide </span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 10pt"><span>Web Foundation and
NATO.</span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 10pt"><span>He received an A.B.
degree with honors in Mathematics from Harvard College and M.A. and
</span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 10pt"><span>Ph.D. degrees in
Economics from Yale University. After spending 1958-1962 as an applied
</span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 10pt"><span>mathematician and
programmer, his career concentrated on applying computers to economic
</span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 10pt"><span>and social policy,
leading academic computing and networking organizations, and making
</span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 10pt"><span>information and
communication technologies (ICTs) useful throughout the world. In 1963-64 he
</span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 10pt"><span>introduced the use of
microsimulation for tax analysis purposes in the U.S. Treasury Department.
</span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 10pt"><span>During 1966-1970 he
founded and directed the Computer Center at the Brookings Institution in
</span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 10pt"><span>Washington; from 1970-73
he did economic research at the Urban Institute leading to his Ph.D,
</span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 10pt"><span>dissertation on the
subject of micro-analytic simulation of the household sector.</span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 10pt"><span>During 1973-86 at the
United Nations, he supported the transfer of information technology to
</span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 10pt"><span>developing countries. He
has done work in more than 50 developing countries and continues to
</span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 10pt"><span>do so. Among other
things, he introduced the use of microcomputers for census data processing
</span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 10pt"><span>in Africa in 1979, and
he worked in China during 1982-1986 supporting the computing activities
</span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 10pt"><span>of their 1982 Census of
Population and Housing.</span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 10pt"><span>From 1986 to 2001, he
directed academic computing and networking activities, first at </span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 10pt"><span>Northwestern University
and then at New York University. He has been a consultant to the U.S.
</span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 10pt"><span>Treasury Department, the
U.S. Congressional Budget Office, UNDP, the Swiss Government, </span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 10pt"><span>and a number of
foundations. He was a Board member of AppliedTheory Corporation and was a
</span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 10pt"><span>Trustee of the
Corporation for Research and Educational Networking (CREN) and the New York
</span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 10pt"><span>State Educational and
Research Network (NYSERNet). He was actively involved in World </span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 10pt"><span>Bank activities during
1996-2002 as a member and Coordinator of the Technical Advisory </span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 10pt"><span>Panel for the infoDev
program, as well as in UNDP and USAID activities. In 1994, he and Larry
</span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 10pt"><span>Landweber formulated
USAID's Leland Initiative for providing initial Internet connectivity
</span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 10pt"><span>for 20 African
countries. He was a member of the Internet Society Board of Trustees
during</span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 10pt"><span>1996-1999 and 2000-2004
and served as Vice President for Conferences (1996-1998) and Vice-<br>President
for Education (1998-2001). He headed a group of ISOC volunteers who defined
and</span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 10pt"><span>conducted the ISOC
Developing Country Network Training Workshops during 1993 -2001.</span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 10pt"><span>More recently, he was
the Executive Director of the Global Internet Policy Initiative
(GIPI)</span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 10pt"><span>from 2001-2006, which
had active ongoing Internet policy reform projects in 17 countries. He
</span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 10pt"><span>also served as Senior
Technical Adviser within USAID's dot-GOV program for the Internews </span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 10pt"><span>Consortium, providing
ICT policy assistance to the developing world. He has served as an </span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 10pt"><span>expert witness for
litigation in the United Kingdom and the United States. He was a special
</span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 10pt"><span>adviser to Nitin Desai,
the Chair of the UN Secretary-General's Internet Governance Forum </span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 10pt"><span>as well as to the Chair
of UN G@ID. He has served as a member of the PIR (Public Internet </span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 10pt"><span>Registry) Advisory
Board, and he is currently a member of the ICANN (Internet Corporation for
</span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 10pt"><span>Assigned Names and
Numbers) Board of Directors He has written and lectured extensively on
</span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 10pt"><span>Please refer to his web
site, <a href="http://www.georgesadowsky.org/" target="_blank">http://www.georgesadowsky.org/</a> as well
as the GIPI web site, http://</span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0in 0in 10pt"><span><a href="http://www.internetpolicy.net/" target="_blank">www.internetpolicy.net</a>, for additional
information.</span></div></div><div>
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