<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div>I guess not everybody has seen the report message sent by Adiel on the 1net list and maybe I should forward it here after this for your direct consideration.<br><br></div>There are a number of committees being formed, and 1net has clearly recognized the place of CS in those committee and the CS right to pursue other avenues of engagement with Brazilian counterparts, including government.<br>
<br></div>So nobody forces us to either be there or have our own channel. We can do both, and I would urge this group to show a spirit of cooperative with 1net.<br><br></div>Rgds,<br><br></div>mc <br></div><div class="gmail_extra">
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Marilia Maciel <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mariliamaciel@gmail.com" target="_blank">mariliamaciel@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">Just to clarify further: I am not against the letter Parminder suggested, just think we could calibrate the language not to dismiss 1net as an option for participation.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div>
M</div></font></span></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra">
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 1:33 PM, Marilia Maciel <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mariliamaciel@gmail.com" target="_blank">mariliamaciel@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">Hi Parminder,<div><br></div><div>I am writing from ICANN meeting in BA where some folks from CS are also arguing for transparency, openness and participation for civil society in the Brazil process. In a similar way that we raised this in the IGF during meetings with the Brazilian government in the iStart meeting and in other spaces, we are doing it here with ICANN staff (Fadi, Thereza, Board members), with governments, etc. My very quick thoughts based on the present situation (things are changing very fast, so I reserve the right to change opinion) is:</div>
<div><br></div><div>- It is not either/or. Both things should be done together: populate and participate 1net and continue to organize ourselves in our own spaces, sending contributions as IGC, BB or individual organizations. It is not clear yet how relevant 1net will be, but there is a possibility it will be important, so we should not be out of it. We also need a channel to exchange with other groups and this could be the channel</div>
<div><br></div><div>- We need to make sure that a steering committee of 1 net is representative and includes CS reps chosen by CS itself </div><div><br></div><div>- 1 net does not exist so far and does not have a committee. What people are doing is going straight to Fadi or to the Br gov. For communication purposes, we have appointed liaisons and should reinforce that these people are our liaisons for the moment until 1 net exists and until (and if) we feel comfortable with it. </div>
<div><br></div><div>- Our liaisons need to be included in all meetings</div><div><br></div><div>Marília </div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div>
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 12:35 PM, parminder <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net" target="_blank">parminder@itforchange.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<font face="Verdana">Dear All<br>
<br>
There are strong indications from all round that Brazil gov may
just be taking the easy expedient to channelise non gov
participation in the Brazil meeting through the 1net structure....
And we know that there was overwhelming feeling among civil
society that this should not be allowed, and we should have a
direct liason. (Civil society outside the active IG kind is even
more strongly of this view). Are we know willing to come out of
our paralysis?<br>
<br>
Lets write a short and succinct letter that we want direct and
independent liason to the Brazil meeting and want to independently
present our liasons directly accountable to us and not through the
1net or whatever...And just forward the four Brazilain names we
have as our liasons... We do not have to change/ expand that
liason structure. Havent the time for that. (and if some people
insist, we can always do it a bit later). The following is a quick
text suggestion... <br>
<br>
</font>
<blockquote><font face="Verdana">We of the undersigned civil society
networks and groups are pleased to note that Brazil has made a
formal announcement of a ............. (put the official name of
the meeting here) . We are happy to help the government of
Brazil organise this meeting and take it to a successful
conclusion. We have chosen the below mentioned four persons to
be our liason to the Brazilian government and also to be put on
any steering committee that may be set up.</font><br>
<br>
<font face="Verdana">....</font><br>
<font face="Verdana">......</font><br>
<br>
<font face="Verdana">......</font><br>
<font face="Verdana">...... the names of our four Brazilian
liasons </font><br>
<br>
<font face="Verdana">Please include our above representatives in
all meetings, formal presentations etc that will henceforth take
place regarding the proposed multistakeholder meeting on the
future of the Internet.....</font> We will route our inputs to
the organisation of this meeting through these reps...<br>
<br>
<font face="Verdana">Signed</font><br>
</blockquote>
<font face="Verdana"><br>
(ends)<span><font color="#888888"><br>
<br>
parminder <br>
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